The Political brain

[evince]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/opinion/11freedman.html?_r=1&th=&emc=th&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

A study which employs brain scans while viewing certain politicians.

Very interesting stuff.

 

[Cypress]

Money Quotes:

The gender gap may be closing. In recent presidential elections, Democrats have done better with female voters, while Republicans have appealed more to men. So far this time, male swing voters seem to be looking more closely at the Democrats. After viewing all the candidate videos, our male subjects, when viewing still photos of the Democrats, showed significantly higher activity in the medial orbital prefrontal cortex, an area that is activated by rewarding stimuli, than they did while looking at pictures of the Republicans.

Women did not display such a one-party skew, but rather tended to react to individual candidates. So the traditional gender pattern of party preference may not be as prominent this year, particularly among men, and that may be good news for Democrats.

I've found that, in general, women are less partisan than men. Less likely to be loyal, parrot-like party hacks. They are more interested in individuals, and individual positions. Which is partly why I'm not buying the conventional wisdom, that Hillary will automatically get women en masse to vote for her, because she's a woman. Around the margins, it may have an effect. But, not enough to determine an election.

Emotions about Hillary Clinton are mixed. Voters who rated Mrs. Clinton unfavorably on their questionnaire appeared not entirely comfortable with their assessment. When viewing images of her, these voters exhibited significant activity in the anterior cingulate cortex, an emotional center of the brain that is aroused when a person feels compelled to act in two different ways but must choose one. It looked as if they were battling unacknowledged impulses to like Mrs. Clinton.

Subjects who rated her more favorably, in contrast, showed very little activity in this brain area when they viewed pictures of her.

Bingo. Spot on. I've always wondered why wingnuts reaction to hillary is so emotional and visceral. Its almost as if they invent little names for her - like Hitlary, or assign allegedly deragoatory terms to her (like lesbian), even though hillary is much closer to joe liberman politics, than she is to Dennis Kucinich or Ted Kennedy politics. There appears to be some emotional projection, and some visceral need to justify Hillary-hate.

 

[Topspin]

Look at the poll numbers and tell me why so many more woman go Hillary vs Obama and Edwards.
cypress your clearly an Idealist
which gets you freaquently hammered by reality.

 

[Agnosticus_Caesar]

Most of the hatred of Hillary is due to the unending campaign by those more than a little right of center to vilify her. At first, it was simply an easy way to attack Bill Clinton, but it was carried over when they realized that her political aspirations were more than just something they had suspicions of.

They can't really face her head on, so they maintain the hate campaign.

 

[Agnosticus_Caesar]

One of the most amusing attacks on her is due to her forgiving her husband for his infidelity. Any woman on the right who had done this would be considered a SAINT, but due to the fact that Hillary isn't the Christian fundamentalist model of a subservient wife, they use this to say "she's just staying with him to further her political career".

As per usual, there is ALWAYS some sinister reason why their political opponents do what they would usually consider very much the right thing, if someone on "their team" had done it.

Its disgusting.

 

[Agnosticus_Caesar]

In fact, if you asked a bunch of mixed questions, with questions about Hillary forgiving her husband, and questions about Guiliani adequately separated from each other, those who mindlessly hate Hillary would probably show more disgust for Hillary forgiving her husband than they would for Guiliani's treatment of his former wife.

 

[theMAJORITY]

Most of the hatred of Hillary is due to the unending campaign by those more than a little right of center to vilify her. At first, it was simply an easy way to attack Bill Clinton, but it was carried over when they realized that her political aspirations were more than just something they had suspicions of.

They can't really face her head on, so they maintain the hate campaign.

I hate her, because she is a scoialist with a hidden aganda (like most Dems and republicans). I hate her because she will not allow millitary personell to look her in the eyes if she passes one down the hall. In fact, I understand military is instructed to duck down another hall if they see her coming. I hate her becuse she turns military personell into her personal servants during elite parties. I hate her, and her old politician ways of exploiting "the children" (god, I am so sick of them hiding behind the children--yet do not want to educate them) to get the bigger government and power she wants. Man--there is really nothing to like about this woman--unless you want welfare. Cater to the black, cater to the single mothers--but they will always be blacks and single mothers on welfare. Sorry--I hate the woman for somevery good reasons.

Look buddy--we hate her because she is a crappy person---as is here husband. What are the words I am looking for--oh yes---"intelectual white trash".

Don't be so certain about the woman voters voting for her in droves. Women know women better than any man does, and they will call them a B@!ch just as quickly as men--if they are one. Sure, the people who want any kind of welfare will vote Democrat--but they will still be on welfare, and so will their kids. Some uninformed, uneducated women might vote for her--but Hitlery will have to buss them in to the voting booths--isn't she going to do that?--LMAO Hillery is a B!@ch, and everybody is scared of the Clintons. I was watching a bunch of candidate interviews from "The daily show". Man--they hammer most of the candidates---yet--not one hard questions for Hitlery. Your career will be done if you ask the B!@ch a hard question.

Any hard core consertative talk show host would give theri right arm to debate Hillery in a public forum. Where is she? They would pick her apart like a artichoke---because they ask tough questions that Hilterly won't answer and does not want to be asked. The B!@ch has a lot of power, and the media she talks to does not dare ask her any hard questions.

you know it--and I know it. Unless one is insane.

 

[Litmus]

Money Quotes:




I've found that, in general, women are less partisan than men.

They are not very analytical, and usually react positively to whoever exhibits most social signs of dominance, regardless of the content of the message.

Less likely to be loyal, parrot-like party hacks.

Evolutionary, loyalty can be fatal to women, being weaker. they are subservient and backstabbing, as a result, out of self-preservation.

They are more interested in individuals, and individual positions.

LOL. No they're not.

Which is partly why I'm not buying the conventional wisdom, that Hillary will automatically get women en masse to vote for her, because she's a woman. Around the margins, it may have an effect. But, not enough to determine an election.

Yet hillary will play the gender card just in case.

Bingo. Spot on. I've always wondered why wingnuts reaction to hillary is so emotional and visceral. Its almost as if they invent little names for her - like Hitlary, or assign allegedly deragoatory terms to her (like lesbian), even though hillary is much closer to joe liberman politics, than she is to Dennis Kucinich or Ted Kennedy politics. There appears to be some emotional projection, and some visceral need to justify Hillary-hate.

She's a lying self serving politician, with no core, moreso than most, though they all suck pretty much.

 

[evince]

Is this Dixie?

 

[evince]

That was meant for the majority

 

[evince]

They are not very analytical, and usually react positively to whoever exhibits most social signs of dominance, regardless of the content of the message.

Evolutionary, loyalty can be fatal to women, being weaker. they are subservient and backstabbing, as a result, out of self-preservation.

LOL. No they're not.

Yet hillary will play the gender card just in case.



She's a lying self serving politician, with no core, moreso than most, though they all suck pretty much.

You dont get much do you?

 

[Litmus]

You dont get much do you?

Get much what?

 

[evince]

Puntang, You seem to be one of those guys who doesnt think much of women. I have a neighbor like that and he keeps hooking up with really dumb bitches that make his life miserable. When you think all women are stupid and over emotional you end up accepting only the ones who prove your ideas. Ive seen it a million times over in my life.

You sound very angry at women, what was it your mother did to make you that way?

 

[Litmus]

Puntang, You seem to be one of those guys who doesnt think much of women.

I love women. My understanding of them is much deeper than yours. Yours is propagandized.

I have a neighbor like that and he keeps hooking up with really dumb bitches that make his life miserable. When you think all women are stupid and over emotional you end up accepting only the ones who prove your ideas. Ive seen it a million times over in my life.

Sucks for him, but that doesn't sound like me. I get some awesome hunnies.

You sound very angry at women, what was it your mother did to make you that way?

I'm not that way.

 

[evince]

So you are also delousional, OK I got you pegged.

 

[Cypress]

Puntang, You seem to be one of those guys who doesnt think much of women. I have a neighbor like that and he keeps hooking up with really dumb bitches that make his life miserable. When you think all women are stupid and over emotional you end up accepting only the ones who prove your ideas. Ive seen it a million times over in my life.

You sound very angry at women, what was it your mother did to make you that way?

You're right Desh. lol

 

[evince]

Men who hate women and find them stupid and over emotional hate themselves deep down.

I have seen it over and over in my life. Look to their mothers and you will either see a hard cold bitch or a truely stupid and over emotional woman. If only the idiots like this were smart enough to realise what the telegraph to any thinking person when they talk like this they would go get therapy first.

 

[Cypress]

Men who hate women and find them stupid and over emotional hate themselves deep down.

Obviously.

I have seen it over and over in my life. Look to their mothers and you will either see a hard cold bitch or a truely stupid and over emotional woman. If only the idiots like this were smart enough to realise what the telegraph to any thinking person when they talk like this they would go get therapy first.

Probably most women are tuned into mysogynists. They're not to hard to pick out, Desh.

 

[Litmus]

Men who hate women and find them stupid and over emotional hate themselves deep down.

They're not stupid. Their world is more socially oriented, and they will tend to internalize the imessages of authority figures less analytically. basically, they're submissive.

I have seen it over and over in my life. Look to their mothers and you will either see a hard cold bitch or a truely stupid and over emotional woman. If only the idiots like this were smart enough to realise what the telegraph to any thinking person when they talk like this they would go get therapy first.

Shut up, queef.

 

[evince]

This woman does not STFU you self absorbed panty waste.

You are the kind of man no self respecting woman with a brain would be caught dead with.

There in lies your problem, get help and maybe you can figure life out.