The queen's death opens the floodgates on self-rule campaigns

Guno צְבִי

Guno צְבִי

We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
When Queen Elizabeth took the throne at the tender age of 25, the sun was only just beginning to set on the British Empire.

The colonies over which the House of Windsor once ruled are now the Commonwealth, a loose collection of 56 member states that occasionally benefit from the British state. But many are restless, and the loyalty and respect that their governments pledged toward Elizabeth will be tested by a new monarch who is more political and less regal.

“The reason why so many countries have remained within the group [is that] they didn’t want to offend her,” said Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute with a specialty in the United Kingdom. “Countries have stayed on, remained with the status of having her as head of state much longer than they would have because they felt so much loyalty to her personally.”

Take Australia, which has for decades rumbled with republican sentiment. Though a 1999 referendum on whether to replace the monarchy with a president was defeated, the newly elected Prime Minister Anthony Albanese this year appointed the country’s first minister to lead the transition to become a republic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...A11IgLL?cvid=bd877e53170641b3b3678974abfbd13b
 
guno said:
When Queen Elizabeth took the throne at the tender age of 25, the sun was only just beginning to set on the British Empire.

The colonies over which the House of Windsor once ruled are now the Commonwealth, a loose collection of 56 member states that occasionally benefit from the British state. But many are restless, and the loyalty and respect that their governments pledged toward Elizabeth will be tested by a new monarch who is more political and less regal.

“The reason why so many countries have remained within the group [is that] they didn’t want to offend her,” said Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute with a specialty in the United Kingdom. “Countries have stayed on, remained with the status of having her as head of state much longer than they would have because they felt so much loyalty to her personally.”

Take Australia, which has for decades rumbled with republican sentiment. Though a 1999 referendum on whether to replace the monarchy with a president was defeated, the newly elected Prime Minister Anthony Albanese this year appointed the country’s first minister to lead the transition to become a republic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...A11IgLL?cvid=bd877e53170641b3b3678974abfbd13b
Click to expand...

Better late than never. LOL
 
guno said:
When Queen Elizabeth took the throne at the tender age of 25, the sun was only just beginning to set on the British Empire.

The colonies over which the House of Windsor once ruled are now the Commonwealth, a loose collection of 56 member states that occasionally benefit from the British state. But many are restless, and the loyalty and respect that their governments pledged toward Elizabeth will be tested by a new monarch who is more political and less regal.

“The reason why so many countries have remained within the group [is that] they didn’t want to offend her,” said Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute with a specialty in the United Kingdom. “Countries have stayed on, remained with the status of having her as head of state much longer than they would have because they felt so much loyalty to her personally.”

Take Australia, which has for decades rumbled with republican sentiment. Though a 1999 referendum on whether to replace the monarchy with a president was defeated, the newly elected Prime Minister Anthony Albanese this year appointed the country’s first minister to lead the transition to become a republic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...A11IgLL?cvid=bd877e53170641b3b3678974abfbd13b
Click to expand...

So what? It's all symbolism. The queen had.minimal influence at home and even less abroad. Why that whole mess hasnt been abolished is beyond me but the Brits seem to love that crap. Chuck needs to get a real job.
 
guno said:
When Queen Elizabeth took the throne at the tender age of 25, the sun was only just beginning to set on the British Empire.

The colonies over which the House of Windsor once ruled are now the Commonwealth, a loose collection of 56 member states that occasionally benefit from the British state. But many are restless, and the loyalty and respect that their governments pledged toward Elizabeth will be tested by a new monarch who is more political and less regal.

“The reason why so many countries have remained within the group [is that] they didn’t want to offend her,” said Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute with a specialty in the United Kingdom. “Countries have stayed on, remained with the status of having her as head of state much longer than they would have because they felt so much loyalty to her personally.”

Take Australia, which has for decades rumbled with republican sentiment. Though a 1999 referendum on whether to replace the monarchy with a president was defeated, the newly elected Prime Minister Anthony Albanese this year appointed the country’s first minister to lead the transition to become a republic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...A11IgLL?cvid=bd877e53170641b3b3678974abfbd13b
Click to expand...

I liked the Queen and she did a good job allowing the "empire" to dismantle without fighting it. Her greatest accomplishment was remaining popular while England's "Empire" became a small Commonwealth. She had very little power to prevent it, but most would have shed a lot of blood trying, and she did not.


I would never want a monarchy in a nation I was a citizen of, but I respect it and think what is left of European Monarchy have done a good job of carving out a role for themselves as ceremonial heads of State.

There is something to be said for a non-elected powerless personification of the State.

I put a 20 Pound Note I had on the family bulletin board this weekend with her photo next to an old Bahamian dollar with her photo which led to to the above discussion at dinner with my kids.

Interesting discussion about why she was the Queen of the Bahamas and the process of Bahaman independence leading to the modern money not having her picture.
 
Last edited:
Jarod said:
I liked the Queen and she did a good job allowing the "empire" to dismantle without fighting it. Her greatest accomplishment was remaining popular while England's "Empire" became a small Commonwealth. She had very little power to prevent it, but most would have shed a lot of blood trying, and she did not.


I would never want a monarchy in a nation I was a citizen of, but I respect it and think what is left of European Monarchy have done a good job of carving out a role for themselves as ceremonial heads of State.

There is something to be said for a non-elected powerless personification of the State.

I put a 20 Pound Note I had on the family bulletin board this weekend with her photo next to an old Bahamian dollar with her photo which led to to the above discussion at dinner with my kids.

Interesting discussion about why she was the Queen of the Bahamas and the process of Bahaman independence leading to the modern money not having her picture.
Click to expand...

How does one do a good job "letting" things happen?
 
At this time, isn’t the Commonwealth nothing more than a trade compact? Britain doesn’t exert any real influence or power over the likes of Canada or Australia
 
Yakuda said:
So what? It's all symbolism. The queen had.minimal influence at home and even less abroad. Why that whole mess hasnt been abolished is beyond me but the Brits seem to love that crap. Chuck needs to get a real job.
Click to expand...

That's because you're a Septic who has little understanding of the world beyond your shores.
 
The Republican trend is moving in only one direction; it’s just a matter or when. Barbados became a republic in 2021, and Jamaican Prime Minister Andrew Holness announced his country would also seek to “become an independent” nation during the visit of the queen’s grandson Prince William earlier this year.
 
Primavera said:
That's because you're a Septic who has little understanding of the world beyond your shores.
Click to expand...

What political influence does the crown have? Little to none. That's a fact no matter my level of Septicism or the extent of my understanding of the world beyond in shores.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top