The realities of Ukraine

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Victor Davis Hanson nails it in this article.

From The Daily Signal:

10 Realities of Ukraine

Victor Davis Hanson / March 17, 2022

1. Reassuring an enemy what one will not do ensures that the enemy will do just that and more. Unpredictability and occasional enigmatic silence bolster deterrence. But President Joe Biden’s predictable reassurance to Russian President Vladimir Putin that he will show restraint means Putin likely will not.



2. No-fly zones don’t work in a big-power, symmetrical standoff. In a cost-benefit analysis, they are not worth the risk of shooting down the planes of a nuclear power.

No-fly zones usually do little to stop planes outside of such zones shooting missiles into them. Sending long-range, high-altitude antiaircraft batteries to Ukraine to deny Russian air superiority is a far better way of regaining air parity.

3. Europe, NATO members, and Germany in particular have de facto admitted that their past decades of shutting down nuclear plants, coal mines, and oil and gas fields have left Europe at the mercy of Russia. They are promising to rearm and meet their promised military contributions. By their actions, they are admitting that their critics, the United States in particular, were right, and they were dangerously wrong in empowering Putin.



4. China is now pro-Russian. Beijing wants Russian natural resources at a discount. Russia will pay for overpriced access to Chinese finance, commerce, and markets.

Yet if Russia loses the Ukraine war, goes broke, and as an international pariah is ostracized, then China will likely cut the smelly Russian albatross from its neck—in fear of new Western financial, cultural, and commercial clout.

5. Americans are finally digesting just how destructive the humiliating U.S. flight from Afghanistan was. The catastrophe signaled to Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran that Western deterrence had died. No surprise that Russia sent missiles into a Ukrainian base near the Polish-NATO border. North Korea in January launched more missiles than in any month in its history. Iran sent missiles into Kurdistan. China announces daily it is just a matter of time until it absorbs Taiwan. The tens of billions of dollars of sophisticated weaponry sent to Ukraine by the West are still far less than what the U.S. military handed over to the terrorist Taliban.



6. The Ukraine war did not cause inflation and record gas prices. Both were already spiking by early February. The cause was the Biden administration’s yearlong radical expansion of the money supply at a time of post-COVID-19, pent-up consumer demand. It foolishly continued de facto zero-interest rates. Its generous COVID-19 subsidies for the unemployed discouraged a return to work, while slashing U.S. oil and gas production and pipelines. Prior to Putin’s invasion, Biden was quite publicly blaming greedy corporations, oil companies, COVID-19, and former President Donald Trump for the inflation he had birthed in 2021. And he was claiming undeniable high prices were only temporary or mostly an obsession of the elite.



7. Putin did not invade during the Trump tenure, although he had been more aggressive under previous American leadership with his attacks on Georgia, Ukraine, and Crimea. Russia stayed still when oil prices were low, fuel supplies in the West were plentiful, and the United States was confident. When the U.S. was neither bogged down in optional military interventions nor led by a president predictably accommodating to Russian aggressions, Russia stayed quiet. Putin took note of increased NATO and U.S. defense spending. He feared low global oil prices and record American oil and gas production. He was wary after unpredictable American strikes against enemies such as ISIS, the terrorist group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.



8. It is not “escalation” to send arms to Ukraine. The Russians far more aggressively supplied the North Koreans and North Vietnamese in their wars against America, without spreading the war globally. Pakistan, Syria, and Iran sent deadly weapons—many in turn supplied to them by Russia, North Korea, and China—to kill thousands of Americans during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.



9. Putin may never fully absorb Ukraine as long as it easily can be supplied across its borders by four NATO countries. The U.S. deadlocked in the Korean War, lost the Vietnam War, was stalled in Iraq, and fled Afghanistan in part because its enemies were easily supplied by nearby border friends on the assumption the U.S. could not strike such abettors.



10. It is not “un-American” to point out that prior American appeasement under the Obama and Biden administrations explains not why Putin wished to go into Ukraine, but why he felt he could. It is not “treasonous” to say Ukraine and the United States previously should have stayed out of each other’s domestic affairs and politics—but still do not excuse Putin’s savage aggression. It is not traitorous to admit that Russia for centuries relied on buffer states between Europe—lost when its Warsaw Pact satellite members joined NATO after its defeat in the Cold War. But that reality also does not justify Putin’s savage attack.

We should not rehash the past but learn from it—and thereby ensure that Putin is defeated now and deterred in the future.



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What time is your flight?

https://fightforua.org/

I have no dog in this fight. I am on the side of the average Ukrainian. I hope every civilian that has relatives lost in this ridiculous conflict has a very long memory to the point that regardless of who claims victory if I were a Russian I would be afraid to set foot on Ukrainian soil for generations for fear of meeting up with a stray bullet.
 
I have no dog in this fight.

That's nice.

I am on the side of the average Ukrainian.

Just not in any meaningful way.

I hope every civilian that has relatives lost in this ridiculous conflict has a very long memory to the point that regardless of who claims victory if I were a Russian I would be afraid to set foot on Ukrainian soil for generations for fear of meeting up with a stray bullet.

So you'll leave it up to hopey-changey, and hope someone else does (someday) what you won't do today.

Got it. :thup:
 
Victor Davis Hanson nails it in this article.

From The Daily Signal:

10 Realities of Ukraine

Victor Davis Hanson / March 17, 2022

1. Reassuring an enemy what one will not do ensures that the enemy will do just that and more. Unpredictability and occasional enigmatic silence bolster deterrence. But President Joe Biden’s predictable reassurance to Russian President Vladimir Putin that he will show restraint means Putin likely will not.



2. No-fly zones don’t work in a big-power, symmetrical standoff. In a cost-benefit analysis, they are not worth the risk of shooting down the planes of a nuclear power.

No-fly zones usually do little to stop planes outside of such zones shooting missiles into them. Sending long-range, high-altitude antiaircraft batteries to Ukraine to deny Russian air superiority is a far better way of regaining air parity.

3. Europe, NATO members, and Germany in particular have de facto admitted that their past decades of shutting down nuclear plants, coal mines, and oil and gas fields have left Europe at the mercy of Russia. They are promising to rearm and meet their promised military contributions. By their actions, they are admitting that their critics, the United States in particular, were right, and they were dangerously wrong in empowering Putin.



4. China is now pro-Russian. Beijing wants Russian natural resources at a discount. Russia will pay for overpriced access to Chinese finance, commerce, and markets.

Yet if Russia loses the Ukraine war, goes broke, and as an international pariah is ostracized, then China will likely cut the smelly Russian albatross from its neck—in fear of new Western financial, cultural, and commercial clout.

5. Americans are finally digesting just how destructive the humiliating U.S. flight from Afghanistan was. The catastrophe signaled to Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran that Western deterrence had died. No surprise that Russia sent missiles into a Ukrainian base near the Polish-NATO border. North Korea in January launched more missiles than in any month in its history. Iran sent missiles into Kurdistan. China announces daily it is just a matter of time until it absorbs Taiwan. The tens of billions of dollars of sophisticated weaponry sent to Ukraine by the West are still far less than what the U.S. military handed over to the terrorist Taliban.



6. The Ukraine war did not cause inflation and record gas prices. Both were already spiking by early February. The cause was the Biden administration’s yearlong radical expansion of the money supply at a time of post-COVID-19, pent-up consumer demand. It foolishly continued de facto zero-interest rates. Its generous COVID-19 subsidies for the unemployed discouraged a return to work, while slashing U.S. oil and gas production and pipelines. Prior to Putin’s invasion, Biden was quite publicly blaming greedy corporations, oil companies, COVID-19, and former President Donald Trump for the inflation he had birthed in 2021. And he was claiming undeniable high prices were only temporary or mostly an obsession of the elite.



7. Putin did not invade during the Trump tenure, although he had been more aggressive under previous American leadership with his attacks on Georgia, Ukraine, and Crimea. Russia stayed still when oil prices were low, fuel supplies in the West were plentiful, and the United States was confident. When the U.S. was neither bogged down in optional military interventions nor led by a president predictably accommodating to Russian aggressions, Russia stayed quiet. Putin took note of increased NATO and U.S. defense spending. He feared low global oil prices and record American oil and gas production. He was wary after unpredictable American strikes against enemies such as ISIS, the terrorist group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.



8. It is not “escalation” to send arms to Ukraine. The Russians far more aggressively supplied the North Koreans and North Vietnamese in their wars against America, without spreading the war globally. Pakistan, Syria, and Iran sent deadly weapons—many in turn supplied to them by Russia, North Korea, and China—to kill thousands of Americans during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.



9. Putin may never fully absorb Ukraine as long as it easily can be supplied across its borders by four NATO countries. The U.S. deadlocked in the Korean War, lost the Vietnam War, was stalled in Iraq, and fled Afghanistan in part because its enemies were easily supplied by nearby border friends on the assumption the U.S. could not strike such abettors.



10. It is not “un-American” to point out that prior American appeasement under the Obama and Biden administrations explains not why Putin wished to go into Ukraine, but why he felt he could. It is not “treasonous” to say Ukraine and the United States previously should have stayed out of each other’s domestic affairs and politics—but still do not excuse Putin’s savage aggression. It is not traitorous to admit that Russia for centuries relied on buffer states between Europe—lost when its Warsaw Pact satellite members joined NATO after its defeat in the Cold War. But that reality also does not justify Putin’s savage attack.

We should not rehash the past but learn from it—and thereby ensure that Putin is defeated now and deterred in the future.



(C) 2022 Tribune Content Agency LLC

ALL COMPLETELY CORRECT.
 
Victor Davis Hanson nails it in this article.

From The Daily Signal:

10 Realities of Ukraine

Victor Davis Hanson / March 17, 2022

1. Reassuring an enemy what one will not do ensures that the enemy will do just that and more. Unpredictability and occasional enigmatic silence bolster deterrence. But President Joe Biden’s predictable reassurance to Russian President Vladimir Putin that he will show restraint means Putin likely will not.



2. No-fly zones don’t work in a big-power, symmetrical standoff. In a cost-benefit analysis, they are not worth the risk of shooting down the planes of a nuclear power.

No-fly zones usually do little to stop planes outside of such zones shooting missiles into them. Sending long-range, high-altitude antiaircraft batteries to Ukraine to deny Russian air superiority is a far better way of regaining air parity.

3. Europe, NATO members, and Germany in particular have de facto admitted that their past decades of shutting down nuclear plants, coal mines, and oil and gas fields have left Europe at the mercy of Russia. They are promising to rearm and meet their promised military contributions. By their actions, they are admitting that their critics, the United States in particular, were right, and they were dangerously wrong in empowering Putin.



4. China is now pro-Russian. Beijing wants Russian natural resources at a discount. Russia will pay for overpriced access to Chinese finance, commerce, and markets.

Yet if Russia loses the Ukraine war, goes broke, and as an international pariah is ostracized, then China will likely cut the smelly Russian albatross from its neck—in fear of new Western financial, cultural, and commercial clout.

5. Americans are finally digesting just how destructive the humiliating U.S. flight from Afghanistan was. The catastrophe signaled to Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran that Western deterrence had died. No surprise that Russia sent missiles into a Ukrainian base near the Polish-NATO border. North Korea in January launched more missiles than in any month in its history. Iran sent missiles into Kurdistan. China announces daily it is just a matter of time until it absorbs Taiwan. The tens of billions of dollars of sophisticated weaponry sent to Ukraine by the West are still far less than what the U.S. military handed over to the terrorist Taliban.



6. The Ukraine war did not cause inflation and record gas prices. Both were already spiking by early February. The cause was the Biden administration’s yearlong radical expansion of the money supply at a time of post-COVID-19, pent-up consumer demand. It foolishly continued de facto zero-interest rates. Its generous COVID-19 subsidies for the unemployed discouraged a return to work, while slashing U.S. oil and gas production and pipelines. Prior to Putin’s invasion, Biden was quite publicly blaming greedy corporations, oil companies, COVID-19, and former President Donald Trump for the inflation he had birthed in 2021. And he was claiming undeniable high prices were only temporary or mostly an obsession of the elite.



7. Putin did not invade during the Trump tenure, although he had been more aggressive under previous American leadership with his attacks on Georgia, Ukraine, and Crimea. Russia stayed still when oil prices were low, fuel supplies in the West were plentiful, and the United States was confident. When the U.S. was neither bogged down in optional military interventions nor led by a president predictably accommodating to Russian aggressions, Russia stayed quiet. Putin took note of increased NATO and U.S. defense spending. He feared low global oil prices and record American oil and gas production. He was wary after unpredictable American strikes against enemies such as ISIS, the terrorist group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.



8. It is not “escalation” to send arms to Ukraine. The Russians far more aggressively supplied the North Koreans and North Vietnamese in their wars against America, without spreading the war globally. Pakistan, Syria, and Iran sent deadly weapons—many in turn supplied to them by Russia, North Korea, and China—to kill thousands of Americans during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.



9. Putin may never fully absorb Ukraine as long as it easily can be supplied across its borders by four NATO countries. The U.S. deadlocked in the Korean War, lost the Vietnam War, was stalled in Iraq, and fled Afghanistan in part because its enemies were easily supplied by nearby border friends on the assumption the U.S. could not strike such abettors.



10. It is not “un-American” to point out that prior American appeasement under the Obama and Biden administrations explains not why Putin wished to go into Ukraine, but why he felt he could. It is not “treasonous” to say Ukraine and the United States previously should have stayed out of each other’s domestic affairs and politics—but still do not excuse Putin’s savage aggression. It is not traitorous to admit that Russia for centuries relied on buffer states between Europe—lost when its Warsaw Pact satellite members joined NATO after its defeat in the Cold War. But that reality also does not justify Putin’s savage attack.

We should not rehash the past but learn from it—and thereby ensure that Putin is defeated now and deterred in the future.



(C) 2022 Tribune Content Agency LLC

do you actually believe that stupid shit? somehow biden enticed putin to invade? and all the rest of that bullshit? how about drinking bleach? you down with that? windmill cancer? trump licked putin's ass, withheld military funding to ukraine unless they investigated hunter biden or at least acted like they would, but biden enticed putin? fuck you, stupid.
 
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