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Tranquillus in Exile

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When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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You can only lose your credibility soliciting "credible evidence" from a trumpanzee, T.I.E.
This forum exists only for us to ridicule and dump on them until we get bored and go back to streaming or Solitaire.
And you already know that, I'm sure.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
You can only lose your credibility soliciting "credible evidence" from a trumpanzee, T.I.E.
This forum exists only for us to ridicule and dump on them until we get bored and go back to streaming or Solitaire.
And you already know that, I'm sure.
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I have contempt for Trump supporters. Mr Trump is a danger to our nation.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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Democrats launched a barrage of meaningless investigations because they were mad Hillary got her ass kicked.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
You can only lose your credibility soliciting "credible evidence" from a trumpanzee, T.I.E.
This forum exists only for us to ridicule and dump on them until we get bored and go back to streaming or Solitaire.
And you already know that, I'm sure.
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Yet you fail when you try to ridicule and dump on anyone, Kunta. It's why people laugh at a a coon like you.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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we're overturning a fraudulent election.

you're not above it all, russiagater.
 
Hello Tranquillus in Exile,

Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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They are denying reality, as usual.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016
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She did not win the popular vote (of electors). She lost it, 304-227... She won the "popular vote" (of the mob of citizens and illegals), but that is not how we elect a President in this country...

Tranquillus in Exile said:
but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.
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Correct. She conceded. She had every right to contest the results and to file lawsuits if she wished to, but she chose not to.

Tranquillus in Exile said:
Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.
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Okay. And?

Tranquillus in Exile said:
Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible,
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What do you consider to be "credible" evidence?

Tranquillus in Exile said:
why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes?
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You clearly have no clue how elections in the USA work, do you...?? No, he is not trying to overturn something that is meaningless to him winning re-election...

Tranquillus in Exile said:
If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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Trump is filing these lawsuits because key swing States are not counting their ballots as their very own laws and Constitutions (and the US Constitution) prescribe that they be counted... IF they would actually be counted according to those State and Federal election laws (no illegal ballots allowed!!), then Trump would easily be the winner. That's what "he and his minions" are currently trying to do...
 
gfm7175 said:
You clearly have no clue how elections in the USA work, do you...??
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I have a clue how Trump would like them to work: SO HE NEVER LOSES.

In 2016 he lost the popular vote (you don't seem to understand what that is, so I'll explain: it's the vote of WE THE PEOPLE). By a fluke, however, he won a majority of votes of the appointed electors in the EC. So America has been treated to the radiance of his rule for the past four years while the world gaped.

In 2020 he won neither the popular vote nor the EC (yes, I know that hasn't been formalized yet). And he still says he won. Who the hell does he think he is?
 
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Tranquillus in Exile said:
When Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but lost narrowly in three key states, each by a fraction of one percent, did she launch a barrage of lawsuits trying to stop the results, and go off in a monumental huff? No. Hillary conceded to Trump on election night. “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said in a speech next day.

Did President Obama refuse to cooperate with the incoming president? No. Although he personally disliked the man who had tried to delegitimize his presidency on the basis of a crackpot conspiracy theory, he rose above that and cooperated with Trump all the way.

Will Trump partisans explain, citing credible evidence if possible, why Trump thinks he can overturn a popular vote defeat bigger than last time - more than 4 million votes? If that isn’t the plan, WTF are he and his minions trying to do?

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This is the first major election where a massive amount of mail in votes were cast and where security measures in various states were scaled back. Anyone paying attention should be wary of the election in general, and not just regarding the presidential race.

Will we ever really know how much fraud there was? Probably not. Will the investigations and lawsuits change the presidential election? Probably not.

However, the point is that we have to look into things a little deeper if not for anything other than principle.
 
gfm7175 said:
She did not win the popular vote (of electors). She lost it, 304-227... She won the "popular vote" (of the mob of citizens and illegals), but that is not how we elect a President in this country...


Correct. She conceded. She had every right to contest the results and to file lawsuits if she wished to, but she chose not to.


Okay. And?


What do you consider to be "credible" evidence?


You clearly have no clue how elections in the USA work, do you...?? No, he is not trying to overturn something that is meaningless to him winning re-election...


Trump is filing these lawsuits because key swing States are not counting their ballots as their very own laws and Constitutions (and the US Constitution) prescribe that they be counted... IF they would actually be counted according to those State and Federal election laws (no illegal ballots allowed!!), then Trump would easily be the winner. That's what "he and his minions" are currently trying to do...
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Hillary WON the popular vote. Your pathetic attempts to continue to contort facts into your own warped reality is hilarious.

Hillary conceded as diplomats do.
tRump is merely a shitstain on our democracy.
 
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