Think the tech overlords are censoring you? Think again.

[AProudLefty]

Internet access is available in North Korea, but is only permitted with special authorization. It is primarily used for government purposes, and also by foreigners. The country has some broadband infrastructure, including fiber optic links between major institutions. Online services for most individuals and institutions are provided through a free domestic-only network known as Kwangmyong, with access to the global Internet limited to a much smaller group.

As of December 2014, 1,024 IP addresses are known to exist in North Korea, although The New York Times journalists David E. Sanger and Nicole Perlroth believe that the actual number may be higher. The total amount of Internet users is estimated at no more than a few thousand. People who can access the global Internet without limits are claimed to be high-ranking officials, members of non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and government ambassadors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea

Here's one of their websites.

http://uriminzokkiri.com/index.php?lang=eng

My question is if they come across damning truth, what would they think and do?

 

[AProudLefty]

Asking "do you have a source for that claim?" will get you imprisoned or killed.

 

[AProudLefty]

A quote from a North Korean lady in a documentary.

My father-in-law has often told us about the enemy and about his experiences during the war.

So even though l wasn't in the war myself his stories have showed me how bad and how cruel those American dogs were for our people.

We must ensure that our people never suffer at the hands of those American monsters ever again.

l believe from the bottom of my heart that we must do everything to destroy all American monsters, everywhere.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Internet access is available in North Korea, but is only permitted with special authorization. It is primarily used for government purposes, and also by foreigners. The country has some broadband infrastructure, including fiber optic links between major institutions. Online services for most individuals and institutions are provided through a free domestic-only network known as Kwangmyong, with access to the global Internet limited to a much smaller group.

As of December 2014, 1,024 IP addresses are known to exist in North Korea, although The New York Times journalists David E. Sanger and Nicole Perlroth believe that the actual number may be higher. The total amount of Internet users is estimated at no more than a few thousand. People who can access the global Internet without limits are claimed to be high-ranking officials, members of non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and government ambassadors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea

Here's one of their websites.

http://uriminzokkiri.com/index.php?lang=eng

My question is if they come across damning truth, what would they think and do?

This is dumb even for you.

 

[AProudLefty]

This is dumb even for you.

Explain.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

My question is if they come across damning truth, what would they think and do?

Ignore it as an obvious lie by America or something like that.

 

[AProudLefty]

Ignore it as an obvious lie by America or something like that.

If it's coming from America? Sure. But those who have access to the Internet can access China and Russia's websites?

 

[Hawkeye10]

As Bret and Heather and a lot of other people point out there are at least three main problems:

1) There is no transparency in how the tech overlords skew the conversations to their liking.

2) They keep on changing how they queer conversations so we can never figure it out.

3) They have zero interest in due process.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

If it's coming from America? Sure. But those who have access to the Internet can access China and Russia's websites?

It wouldn't matter where it came from, any high ranking N. Korean would deny it's veracity. If they didn't and that got known, they'd be finished and they know it.

 

[AProudLefty]

It wouldn't matter where it came from, any high ranking N. Korean would deny it's veracity. If they didn't and that got known, they'd be finished and they know it.

Denial and knowledge are two different things.

Once they acquire knowledge, it would be a heavy burden to carry.

 

[Hawkeye10]

This is very good:

Timestamps:
00:00 Tristan's wildfire
02:20 Core message of "The Social Dilemma"
06:09 Living in a Truman Show reality - Reality breakdown pandemic from the Zuckerberg Institute of Virology
11:23 Human consciousness, creativity, and evolutionary dynamics
15:49 Projecting AI into the future
18:06 News feed and the race to capture attention
19:48 Bret on magic and social media comparison
21:37 Quitting and limiting social media usage
24:10 Optical illusions
28:53 What is an ethical asymmetric manipulative-persuasive relationship?
32:24 Establishing a basis of trust with shared fate
34:54 White lies to your children
37:34 Collective derangement
39:16 Foreign powers using Facebook to manipulate by identity hacking
42:41 Believing in conspiracies and Occam's razor
47:08 The largest psychological experiment ever run
52:37 Analogy to nuclear war
59:53 "The Day After" compared with “The Social Dilemma”
01:01:51 Who controls the tech CEOs?
01:03:20 Analogy to a disease
01:07:02 How to make sense of the world
1. Is it true?
2. Can I be absolutely sure it is true?
3. What happens when I believe this? How do I react?
4. Who would I be without this thought?
01:10:42 Bret's self talk in these difficult times
01:12:11 Removing Parler
01:14:00 Apple and recent advertising changes
01:16:52 Hopeful and hopeless
01:19:00 Global problems require global governance. Choose your dystopia
01:24:15 Nazis and paper
01:28:47 Precautionary principle
01:30:53 With great power comes great responsibility and free speech regulation
01:34:15 Markets and unplugging social media - should we pull the plug on algoritmic social media?
01:40:36 Attention and agency
01:45:00 Wrap up

 

[AProudLefty]

This is very good:

Timestamps:
00:00 Tristan's wildfire
02:20 Core message of "The Social Dilemma"
06:09 Living in a Truman Show reality - Reality breakdown pandemic from the Zuckerberg Institute of Virology
11:23 Human consciousness, creativity, and evolutionary dynamics
15:49 Projecting AI into the future
18:06 News feed and the race to capture attention
19:48 Bret on magic and social media comparison
21:37 Quitting and limiting social media usage
24:10 Optical illusions
28:53 What is an ethical asymmetric manipulative-persuasive relationship?
32:24 Establishing a basis of trust with shared fate
34:54 White lies to your children
37:34 Collective derangement
39:16 Foreign powers using Facebook to manipulate by identity hacking
42:41 Believing in conspiracies and Occam's razor
47:08 The largest psychological experiment ever run
52:37 Analogy to nuclear war
59:53 "The Day After" compared with “The Social Dilemma”
01:01:51 Who controls the tech CEOs?
01:03:20 Analogy to a disease
01:07:02 How to make sense of the world
1. Is it true?
2. Can I be absolutely sure it is true?
3. What happens when I believe this? How do I react?
4. Who would I be without this thought?
01:10:42 Bret's self talk in these difficult times
01:12:11 Removing Parler
01:14:00 Apple and recent advertising changes
01:16:52 Hopeful and hopeless
01:19:00 Global problems require global governance. Choose your dystopia
01:24:15 Nazis and paper
01:28:47 Precautionary principle
01:30:53 With great power comes great responsibility and free speech regulation
01:34:15 Markets and unplugging social media - should we pull the plug on algoritmic social media?
01:40:36 Attention and agency
01:45:00 Wrap up

This compares to the censorship in North Korea how?

 

[AProudLefty]

Those poor guys with those bad movies and acting!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Those poor guys with those bad movies and acting!

That's okay, few people have a television in N. Korea, and those that do know that the government is watching them through it...