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Thirty years after the Soviet Union collapsed, Putin exploits nostalgia for the old regime

Moscow (CNN) When the Soviet Union finally fell, it was in a mundane way, as if it had clocked off from a normal day's work.

On December 25, 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev addressed the Soviet citizens and announced his resignation as president. A little after 7:30 p.m. that same day, the Soviet flag, waving in the wind, was lowered from the flagpole above the presidential residence in the Kremlin.

For five minutes the flagpole stood bare, as if to symbolize the transition of power. By 7:45 p.m. the Russian tricolor was hoisted on it.

The following day, the Soviet Union was officially dissolved. And with that, the empire in which I'd been born and spent the first 26 years of my life came to an end. The backdrop for my family's story -- which included losses during World War II and Stalin's repressive dictatorship -- had come down.

But I must admit that when that flagpole stood naked, I felt nothing.

For me, the Soviet Union became a thing of the past after the attempted coup of August 1991. Gorbachev pulled strings, believing he was running the country, but the strings were cut. Ministers and regional leaders wrote alarmist letters to one another -- food supplies were thinning and the country was facing starvation. Russia was creating a reform government.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/25/opin...t-union-collapse-andrei-kolesnikov/index.html



Glory Days?!!
 
Gorbachev tried to transition the nation


It had to be done slowly


You can’t just take a government owned asset and sell it to the highest bidder unless you want Oligarchs running the nation in the end



The Republican Party whipped up hate internationally for Gorbachevs efforts


It aided in Yeltsen winning the next election


He was an old drunken fool who was manipulated by putin into making him the new leader


It’s been putin ever since
 
Vladimir Putin was handed power on a Kremlin plate. The former officer of the KGB - the Soviet security service - was handpicked by President Boris Yeltsin and his inner circle to lead Russia into the 21st Century.
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.la...-xpm-1996-07-09-mn-22423-story.html?_amp=true



Americans Claim Role in Yeltsin Win

BY ELEANOR RANDOLPH
JULY 9, 1996 12 AM PT
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WASHINGTON — A team of American political strategists who helped Gov. Pete Wilson with his abortive presidential bid earlier this year said this week that they served as Russian President Boris N. Yeltsin’s secret campaign weapon in his comeback win over a Communist challenger.
 
https://www.britannica.com/event/th...tsin-and-the-foundation-of-post-Soviet-Russia


Yeltsin first rose to prominence in 1985 as an ally of Gorbachev, but he bristled at the slow pace of reform and soon found himself cast into the political wilderness. During his short time as the mayor of Moscow, however, Yeltsin won great popular acclaim as a champion of political and economic freedom. With Gorbachev’s introduction of democratic elections for the Soviet parliament, Yeltsin was returned to power with the overwhelming support of a Moscow constituency in 1989.
 
In a remarkable scene that some arch-conservatives seem to have forgotten, Reagan warmly embraced Gorbachev as the two world leaders casually chatted with cheering Soviet citizens while strolling through Moscow's Red Square.

Far too many contemporary conservatives also conveniently forget that Reagan took enormous flak from his own hard-right flank in response to his diplomatic overtures to Gorbachev. According to George Will, Reagan's embrace of Gorbachev "accelerated the moral disarmament of the West." William F. Buckley blasted Reagan, claiming that his shift from confrontation to diplomacy amounted to "changing our entire position toward Adolf Hitler." How spectacularly wrong they were.

Indeed, many conservative commentators would prefer to sweep these historical nuances under the rug. These realities also directly contradict a deeply ideological (and ahistorical) narrative that - short of war - massive defense buildups, bellicosity and tough talk bring authoritarian regimes to their knees.
 
Indeed, the roots of Gorbachev's sweeping reforms predated Reagan's ascent to leadership by decades.
 
The wrong way to convince people socialism is wrong is to introduce them to cutthroat cowboy capitalism.

I don't think Putin wants to reconstitute the exact boundaries of the USSR.

He is pissed off that the day when the USSR collapsed a lot of ethnic Russians woke up the next day and found themselves outside the borders of Mother Russia. Putin is probably keen to have eastern Ukraine, Crimea, and Belarus under his influence, because those are ground zero for where many ethnic Russians moved in the 20th century.

In that sense Putin is more of a Russian nationalist, than a internationalist Communist
 
evince said:
Indeed, the roots of Gorbachev's sweeping reforms predated Reagan's ascent to leadership by decades.
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You can't reform corruption. Gorbachev changed the name of the Soviet Union like a bankrupt corporation but continued to pay pensions in Soviet rubles. There was no socioeconomic reform.
 
signalmankenneth said:
Thirty years after the Soviet Union collapsed, Putin exploits nostalgia for the old regime

Moscow (CNN) When the Soviet Union finally fell, it was in a mundane way, as if it had clocked off from a normal day's work.

On December 25, 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev addressed the Soviet citizens and announced his resignation as president. A little after 7:30 p.m. that same day, the Soviet flag, waving in the wind, was lowered from the flagpole above the presidential residence in the Kremlin.

For five minutes the flagpole stood bare, as if to symbolize the transition of power. By 7:45 p.m. the Russian tricolor was hoisted on it.

The following day, the Soviet Union was officially dissolved. And with that, the empire in which I'd been born and spent the first 26 years of my life came to an end. The backdrop for my family's story -- which included losses during World War II and Stalin's repressive dictatorship -- had come down.

But I must admit that when that flagpole stood naked, I felt nothing.

For me, the Soviet Union became a thing of the past after the attempted coup of August 1991. Gorbachev pulled strings, believing he was running the country, but the strings were cut. Ministers and regional leaders wrote alarmist letters to one another -- food supplies were thinning and the country was facing starvation. Russia was creating a reform government.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/25/opin...t-union-collapse-andrei-kolesnikov/index.html



Glory Days?!!
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That parade looks just like the one that our own dictator-in-chief wanted, but never got, doesn't it?
 
evince said:
In a remarkable scene that some arch-conservatives seem to have forgotten, Reagan warmly embraced Gorbachev as the two world leaders casually chatted with cheering Soviet citizens while strolling through Moscow's Red Square.

Far too many contemporary conservatives also conveniently forget that Reagan took enormous flak from his own hard-right flank in response to his diplomatic overtures to Gorbachev. According to George Will, Reagan's embrace of Gorbachev "accelerated the moral disarmament of the West." William F. Buckley blasted Reagan, claiming that his shift from confrontation to diplomacy amounted to "changing our entire position toward Adolf Hitler." How spectacularly wrong they were.

Indeed, many conservative commentators would prefer to sweep these historical nuances under the rug. These realities also directly contradict a deeply ideological (and ahistorical) narrative that - short of war - massive defense buildups, bellicosity and tough talk bring authoritarian regimes to their knees.
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Now the Reichwing loves them some Putin, and worships the Putin-asskisser #TRE45ON.
 
evince said:
https://www.britannica.com/event/th...tsin-and-the-foundation-of-post-Soviet-Russia


Yeltsin first rose to prominence in 1985 as an ally of Gorbachev, but he bristled at the slow pace of reform and soon found himself cast into the political wilderness. During his short time as the mayor of Moscow, however, Yeltsin won great popular acclaim as a champion of political and economic freedom. With Gorbachev’s introduction of democratic elections for the Soviet parliament, Yeltsin was returned to power with the overwhelming support of a Moscow constituency in 1989.
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Yeltsin was a drunk

 
goat said:
You can't reform corruption. Gorbachev changed the name of the Soviet Union like a bankrupt corporation but continued to pay pensions in Soviet rubles. There was no socioeconomic reform.
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He was moving it foreword

He had to get all those national assets into private hands with out creating an oligarchy


Lots of things were changing

Being silly about it not being fast enough is just what the American right was saying


That blustered Yeltsen to to top in their elections


Gorbachev is the one who gave the people the ability to elect someone else


Yeltsen was also a drunk


A fool


He gave us all Putin


That was not so good huh
 
evince said:
He was moving it foreword

He had to get all those national assets into private hands with out creating an oligarchy


Lots of things were changing

Being silly about it not being fast enough is just what the American right was saying


That blustered Yeltsen to to top in their elections


Gorbachev is the one who gave the people the ability to elect someone else


Yeltsen was also a drunk


A fool


He gave us all Putin


That was not so good huh
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Pensioners were left to survive off the worthless Soviet ruble. The same will happen in the US in 2030. Old and vulnerable Americans will have to fend for themselves with the worthless dollar from social security. This is the reality of fiat currency. Retirees have 8 years to find another source of income before their social security is worthless.
 
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