This is why more cops should be killed

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LONG BEACH, Calif. --

Angry relatives of a man shot to death by police who apparently mistook a pistol-grip water nozzle he held for a gun are lashing out at officers, saying they made no effort to contact him before opening fire.

However, police officials say Douglas Zerby's behavior prompted the officers' response.

"As the subject was in a seated position, he used a two-handed pistol-grip hold on an object with his arms fully extended," Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell said. "Somebody that is impaired and waving what appears to witnesses and police to be a handgun. That's what the officers were faced with."

Zerby pointed it at one of the officers and two officers fired their weapons, a handgun and a shotgun. A total of eight shots were fired - two from shot guns and six from a handgun, McDonnell said.

Zerby's sister, Eden Marie Biele, said officers made no attempt to talk to her 35-year-old brother or get his attention before shooting him to death.

"They didn't say 'Put your hands up' or 'Freeze' or anything," Biele told The Associated Press Monday. "He was killed in cold blood."

Biele was among the family members whose sobs were heard among McDonnell's explanations of the events leading to Zerby's death on Sunday.

"This is a very unfortunate set of circumstances and leaves the family to deal with it here," McDonnell said, offering his condolences to the Zerby family.

The Long Beach officers were dispatched to an apartment building after two people reported a man with a gun sitting on a backyard porch landing, McDonnell said. In an excerpt of a 911 call played for reporters, a male caller said the man appeared to have a "tiny six-shooter."

McDonnell said the officers took positions to observe Zerby, who appeared intoxicated, and believed he had a gun as described by the callers, but focused on setting up containment of the area rather than contacting him.

As officers awaited requested backup units, the man pointed the object at apartments and played with it, causing it to make sounds similar to those of a gun being handled, he said.

Both officers were placed on administrative leave, a standard move after a police shooting.

Biele said the family is considering legal action over the shooting.

She said Zerby, who had an 8-year-old son, had been drinking and rather than drive home, went to his friend's place and was waiting on the stairs for him to come home.

"He never knew there was a problem. Police snuck down the corridor and shot him," Biele said. "He was a drunk sitting on a stoop fumbling with a hose nozzle."
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fucking trigger happy cops deserve to die.
 
So they sent an entire unit over here and surrounded this guys house because someone called 911 and said that he was sitting on his patio with a gun? And then they shot him because... I dunno.
 
They had a man who was apparently armed, and took a stance as if he were going to fire at them, and people are pissed because they didn't yell at him?

lol
 
if what they say is true and he pointed a gun that looked like a real gun at them....i don't see how the cops are fault, cops lose their lives over shit like that
 
Yurt said:
if what they say is true and he pointed a gun that looked like a real gun at them....i don't see how the cops are fault, cops lose their lives over shit like that
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Apparently the cops have to wait until one of them is dead to react with anything more than harsh language.
 
stop being cop apologists and read the fucking story. the cops were in positions of cover WAITING FOR BACKUP when the man pointed something at them. they didn't know what it was, but instead of identifying themselves, they just killed him. that's ok with you sheeple?

where did your sense of freedom go? stop being a mindless fucking lemming and stand up for your fucking individual liberty.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
stop being cop apologists and read the fucking story. the cops were in positions of cover WAITING FOR BACKUP when the man pointed something at them. they didn't know what it was, but instead of identifying themselves, they just killed him. that's ok with you sheeple?

where did your sense of freedom go? stop being a mindless fucking lemming and stand up for your fucking individual liberty.
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The cops were under cover because they saw a man who apparently had a weapon. When the man pointed the weapon at them, they didn't identify themselves? Is that a joke? Would it be enough to just say "We are cops!", or should they yell their badge numbers too?

From the article "As officers awaited requested backup units, the man pointed the object at apartments and played with it, causing it to make sounds similar to those of a gun being handled, he said."

Now if you have something that LOOKS like a gun, and you play with it so it SOUNDS like a gun being handled, and then point it at me, I am gonna do everything in my power to shoot you first.

Ain't no second place trophy in a gun fight.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
stop being a mindless fucking lemming and stand up for your fucking individual liberty.
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WTF? Being a lemming would be standing there yelling while an impaired person pointed a gun at you and killed your dumb ass.

I understand that cops are supposed to put their lives on the line. But when someone points a gun at them, they should shoot that person.
 
WinterBorn said:
WTF? Being a lemming would be standing there yelling while an impaired person pointed a gun at you and killed your dumb ass.

I understand that cops are supposed to put their lives on the line. But when someone points a gun at them, they should shoot that person.
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There was never a gun pointed at them.
 
tinfoil said:
There was never a gun pointed at them.
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According to their testimony, the witness testimony, and the 911 call, everyone except the dead guy thought it was a gun and it was being pointed at them in a two-handed (probably a Weaver) stance.

If I run up to a cop car with a plastic pistol, holding it in two hands like its real, do you think they will just laugh?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
stop being cop apologists and read the fucking story. the cops were in positions of cover WAITING FOR BACKUP when the man pointed something at them. they didn't know what it was, but instead of identifying themselves, they just killed him. that's ok with you sheeple?

where did your sense of freedom go? stop being a mindless fucking lemming and stand up for your fucking individual liberty.
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you may be in a position of cover but that doesn't mean you are safe. When your life is on the line and you are behind a tree lets see how much you are willing to risk.

This man deserved to die. He is a fucking prole of the highest order. "DERRRRRRRP IM GONNA POINT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GUN AT A BUNCH OF COPS WITH WEAPONS DRAWN, I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN?!? DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP"

What a fucking retard.
 
STY: do you defend his actions in pointing the nozzle (which he had to know looked like a gun) at police with both arms fully extended and holding it in a gun like manner

somehow i think if someone did that to you, i doubt you would believe your life was not in danger
 
WinterBorn said:
The cops were under cover because they saw a man who apparently had a weapon. When the man pointed the weapon at them, they didn't identify themselves? Is that a joke? Would it be enough to just say "We are cops!", or should they yell their badge numbers too?

From the article "As officers awaited requested backup units, the man pointed the object at apartments and played with it, causing it to make sounds similar to those of a gun being handled, he said."

Now if you have something that LOOKS like a gun, and you play with it so it SOUNDS like a gun being handled, and then point it at me, I am gonna do everything in my power to shoot you first.

Ain't no second place trophy in a gun fight.
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obviously, objectivity isn't in your nature. the thug enforcement spokesperson is feeding you bullshit information, but you swallow that along with all the other fucking koolaid you're drinking.

If you can even thing straight for a single second and not see that the spokesperson apologist is covering for the fact that two officers, who supposedly hadn't been spotted yet, murdered a man playing with a water nozzle, then you're just fucking gone.
 
))<>(( said:
you may be in a position of cover but that doesn't mean you are safe. When your life is on the line and you are behind a tree lets see how much you are willing to risk.

This man deserved to die. He is a fucking prole of the highest order. "DERRRRRRRP IM GONNA POINT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A GUN AT A BUNCH OF COPS WITH WEAPONS DRAWN, I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN?!? DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP"

What a fucking retard.
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reverse the situation, had a NON police officer shot some cop holding a waternozzle, what would be happening right now?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
obviously, objectivity isn't in your nature. the thug enforcement spokesperson is feeding you bullshit information, but you swallow that along with all the other fucking koolaid you're drinking.

If you can even thing straight for a single second and not see that the spokesperson apologist is covering for the fact that two officers, who supposedly hadn't been spotted yet, murdered a man playing with a water nozzle, then you're just fucking gone.
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Hadnt been spotted yet?

Did you read the article?

""As the subject was in a seated position, he used a two-handed pistol-grip hold on an object with his arms fully extended," Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell said. "Somebody that is impaired and waving what appears to witnesses and police to be a handgun. That's what the officers were faced with."

"Zerby pointed it at one of the officers and two officers fired their weapons..."


The man held what appeared to the cops and witnesses to be a gun, and held it in a two handed shooting position.

Then he pointed it at the cops. You are the one making shit up by saying they hadn't been spotted yet.
 
Yurt said:
STY: do you defend his actions in pointing the nozzle (which he had to know looked like a gun) at police with both arms fully extended and holding it in a gun like manner

somehow i think if someone did that to you, i doubt you would believe your life was not in danger
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by all accounts except for the police involved, this guy didn't even know the cops were there. but you can damn guarantee that every statement by law enforcement is going to intimate that this guy looked directly at both cops and pretended to shoot them with a fucking water nozzle so that this shoot is justified, not that they would even need that because we know law enforcement protects its own before it protects the people they were hired to.
 
WinterBorn said:
Hadnt been spotted yet?

Did you read the article?

""As the subject was in a seated position, he used a two-handed pistol-grip hold on an object with his arms fully extended," Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell said. "Somebody that is impaired and waving what appears to witnesses and police to be a handgun. That's what the officers were faced with."

"Zerby pointed it at one of the officers and two officers fired their weapons..."


The man held what appeared to the cops and witnesses to be a gun, and held it in a two handed shooting position.

Then he pointed it at the cops. You are the one making shit up by saying they hadn't been spotted yet.
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Long Beach Police Chief Jim McDonnell said

you're drinking koolaid.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
reverse the situation, had a NON police officer shot some cop holding a waternozzle, what would be happening right now?
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If the cop had been in a shooting stance with what appeared to be a weapon, I would say it was justified.

I am not backing them because they are cops. I am backing them because they acted properly based on what they knew.



Let me ask you, if he had been pointing a gun at them, but we found out later that it had no bullets in it, what would YOU be saying now?
 
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