Tony Snow(job)

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...doesn't mind looking like the lying fool that he is again. As long as it's in the service of the Bush admistration. I don't know why this guy just doesn't come out and say what we all know.

"You ask me, Tony, why was it different then? Well, I'll tell you the truth, because if a Republican does it, then that's OK."

Imagine what a breath of fresh air amongst all of this horseshit that would be.

By E&P Staff

Published: March 21, 2007 10:55 AM ET udpated 3:30 PM ET

NEW YORK With the crisis over the firing of eight U.S. attorneys mounting, President Bush and his spokesman Tony Snow have roundly embraced the concept of "executive privilege" to deny Congress and testimony and documents from key White House insiders. But Snow was singing a different tune during the Clinton era, when a president claimed the same during the Lewinsky scandal.

Glenn Greenwald, who now blogs for Salon, has located a Snow column in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch from March 29, 1998, back in his days as a newspaper pundit. Snow wrote then:

"Evidently, Mr. Clinton wants to shield virtually any communications that take place within the White House compound on the theory that all such talk contributes in some way, shape or form to the continuing success and harmony of an administration. Taken to its logical extreme, that position would make it impossible for citizens to hold a chief executive accountable for anything. He would have a constitutional right to cover up.

"Chances are that the courts will hurl such a claim out, but it will take time.

"One gets the impression that Team Clinton values its survival more than most people want justice and thus will delay without qualm. But as the clock ticks, the public's faith in Mr. Clinton will ebb away for a simple reason: Most of us want no part of a president who is cynical enough to use the majesty of his office to evade the one thing he is sworn to uphold -- the rule of law."

At his press briefing today, Snow was asked about all this. The exchange follows.
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Q So Tony, back when President Clinton was citing executive privilege to keep internal deliberations in that White House from being talked about in Congress, you wrote now famously that --

MR. SNOW: I'm glad it was famous. I didn't get that kind of coverage at the time. (Laughter.)

Q It's become more famous --

MR. SNOW: Oh, is it making its way through the left-wing blog?

Q It is.

(Laughter.)

Q No, no. But you spoke -- you wrote quite eloquently about this. You said, "Taken to its logical extreme, that position would make it impossible for citizens to hold the chief executive accountable."

MR. SNOW: Right.

Q "We would have a constitutional right to a cover-up."

MR. SNOW: Right. Now let me --

Q So why were you wrong then and right now?

MR. SNOW: Because you're -- this is a not entirely analogous situation. I just told you what we have in fact offered to make available to members of Congress. What we are doing is we are holding apart confidential communications between advisers and the president, and that is pretty standard practice in White Houses. But again --

Q It wasn't with the Clinton administration.

MR. SNOW: Well, I'm not so sure. And I'll let others do the legal arguing on that.

Full story: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003560724
 
Common practice in this admin. here is a quote from Cheny dated 1991.

"I think for us to get american military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do ?... I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. It makes no sense at all"

Said by Dick Cheny (SOD) in 1991 after gulf war.
 
then Bush said he was not into nation building or the US military being the worlds police force....
anyone else see a pattern here ?
 
He does do a pretty damn good job I agree.

It is just such a stupid pack of crap he has to tout that he will look like an ass anyway.
 
He has looked sort of embarrassed, though, lately, when he's had to discuss issues such as the US attorneys firings. Perhaps even foreknowledge wasn't quite enough to prepare him for the sleaziness he now has to handle.
 
He has looked sort of embarrassed, though, lately, when he's had to discuss issues such as the US attorneys firings. Perhaps even foreknowledge wasn't quite enough to prepare him for the sleaziness he now has to handle.

I wouldn't be able to take enough showers, and as for the embarrassment, I don't think I could take it. I don't know how they do.
 
I wouldn't be able to take enough showers, and as for the embarrassment, I don't think I could take it. I don't know how they do.

I've dealt with enough unprincipled individuals, and I'll bet you have too, to realize that not everyone lives by the same ethics. The best we can do is be aware of it. :(
 
Manufactured controversy - The AGs serve at the pleasure of the President. He can fire them for ANY reason.
 
On Snow if you hang out with the hogs you smell just like them.

The guys killing jews in nazi Germany were just doing their jobs as well.....or so some might say...
 
Shit...Tony Snow? He cannot compare with his predecessor...and his predecessor was a joke compared to the one that came before him.

Ari Fleisher was a master...these children tug at his pant-legs
 
Manufactured controversy - The AGs serve at the pleasure of the President. He can fire them for ANY reason.

True, to a point, but NOT to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, and that is what appears to be the case... otherwise there would have been NO REASON for the administration to LIE about the firings....

In addition to this, they should not allow our justice system to be manipulated for purely partisan hackery, it does a diservice to our justice system and makes all of us americans feel that our justice system is not fair and just, as it should be for all of us.
 
True, to a point, but NOT to OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, and that is what appears to be the case... otherwise there would have been NO REASON for the administration to LIE about the firings....

In addition to this, they should not allow our justice system to be manipulated for purely partisan hackery, it does a diservice to our justice system and makes all of us americans feel that our justice system is not fair and just, as it should be for all of us.

And the proof that there was obstruction is, from what I have seen so far, totally lacking.
 
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