Torture impairs ability to tell the truth

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Brain Study Shows Torture Doesn't Work


By Jeralyn, Section War on Terror
Posted on Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 08:08:47 PM EST
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In Newsweek, a report of a study showing torture can actually impair a person's ability to tell the truth.
[N]eurobiologist Shane O'Mara of the Trinity College Institute of Neuroscience in Dublin explains in a paper in the journal Trends in Cognitive Science called "Torturing the Brain," "the use of such techniques appears motivated by a folk psychology that is demonstrably incorrect.
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Solid scientific evidence on how repeated and extreme stress and pain affect memory and executive functions (such as planning or forming intentions) suggests these techniques are unlikely to do anything other than the opposite of that intended by coercive or 'enhanced' interrogation."
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Some of the nitty-gritty:
Fact One: To recall information stored in the brain, you must activate a number of areas, especially the prefrontal cortex (site of intentionality) and hippocampus (the door to long-term memory storage).
Fact Two: Stress such as that caused by torture releases the hormone cortisol, which can impair cognitive function, including that of the prefrontal cortex and hippocampus. Studies in which soldiers were subjected to stress in the form of food and sleep deprivation have found that it impaired their ability to recall personal memories and information, as this 2006 study reported. "
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What are they defining totrue as today? Abusive launguage? Sleep deprivation? Cohersive speeches and actions (going into the next room, firing a blank, and then telling your current suspect that he's next)? To me those are all perfectly legitimate adn honestly very mild techniques.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
What are they defining totrue as today? Abusive launguage? Sleep deprivation? Cohersive speeches and actions (going into the next room, firing a blank, and then telling your current suspect that he's next)? To me those are all perfectly legitimate adn honestly very mild techniques.
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What about waterboarding?
 
So Republicants must have been tortured. They sure have an inability to tell the truth.
 
TheHappyHippo said:
Link to the scientific study? "Real world" information usually means absolutely useless bullshit based on folk-psychology.
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Its not science dummy, but real world. We water boarded terrorists and they gave us more information in a few days than the CIA had from years of spying.
 
TheHappyHippo said:
So it's not like the law of gravity, it's real world shit, like witches. Imagine all those lives we saved burning witches, and you scientists want to do away with that?
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Law of gravity is real world, witches are not. Typical liberal, you've got things ass-backwards and your head up your ass. :pke:
 
The problem is that we (as in the United States of America) signed a treaty saying we would not use waterboarding.

And then we use waterboarding.
 
Southern Man said:
Law of gravity is real world, witches are not. Typical liberal, you've got things ass-backwards and your head up your ass. :pke:
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Law of gravity is science, withces is "real world". It's the difference between the world of reason and logic, and the world of anecdotes and assumptions that conservatives live in.
 
The treaty doesn't apply to folks who never signed and intentionally violate the treaty. Otherwise it would be called "suicide pact" for the signers.

Just like when some liberal pussy attacks my family or such. After that I play by his rules, which he set.
 
Southern Man said:
The treaty doesn't apply to folks who never signed and intentionally violate the treaty. Otherwise it would be called "suicide pact" for the signers.

Just like when some liberal pussy attacks my family or such. After that I play by his rules, which he set.
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The rules are universal, and you are no better than them for going down to their level. IMHO you should've been banned for going down to MM's level, and I'm still petitioning Damo to that effect.
 
TheHappyHippo said:
Law of gravity is science, withces is "real world". It's the difference between the world of reason and logic, and the world of anecdotes and assumptions that conservatives live in.
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Wow "withces is "real world" ".

Spelling, grammar, and logic errors in a mere four words. That must be some kind of record. LOL
 
Southern Man said:
The treaty doesn't apply to folks who never signed and intentionally violate the treaty. Otherwise it would be called "suicide pact" for the signers.

Just like when some liberal pussy attacks my family or such. After that I play by his rules, which he set.
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TheHappyHippo said:
The rules are universal, and you are no better than them for going down to their level. IMHO you should've been banned for going down to MM's level, and I'm still petitioning Damo to that effect.
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Water boarding is the same "level" as cutting heads off, using children as shields, dragging guys through the streets and hanging their bodies on bridges? Explain that to me, then explain how The Southern Man went to Maineman's level.

Dummy.
 
Southern Man said:
The treaty doesn't apply to folks who never signed and intentionally violate the treaty. Otherwise it would be called "suicide pact" for the signers.

Just like when some liberal pussy attacks my family or such. After that I play by his rules, which he set.
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No where in the treaty did it say anything about it not applying to people who did not sign the treaty or will not abide by the treaty.

So that is a flat out lie.
 
WinterBorn said:
No where in the treaty did it say anything about it not applying to people who did not sign the treaty or will not abide by the treaty.

So that is a flat out lie.
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It doesn't say otherwise. Legal experts carefully looked at the CIA methods and approved them before they were authorized. Besides, this thread is about if the methods worked, and they certainly did. You pussy liberals don't seem to want to accept that little fact.
 
Southern Man said:
It doesn't say otherwise. Legal experts carefully looked at the CIA methods and approved them before they were authorized. Besides, this thread is about if the methods worked, and they certainly did. You pussy liberals don't seem to want to accept that little fact.
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If the police started shooting crack dealers in the head it would reduce drug related crimes. But it would still be against the law.

The experts did no such thing. They rendered the opinion that they were told to render.

But the fact remains, the USA signed a treaty/pact agreeing to never use waterboarding to interogate prisoners.
 
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