Trump says Zelensky's statement is very harmful for Peace Negotiations with Russia
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Trump has said that the Russians have agreed to the outline of a deal. My sources in Moscow suggest this could be true. Zelensky, however, has not agreed as I've reported earlier. It's rumoured that he has until Monday to do so before the US pulls the plug on Kiev.
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Trump has said that the Russians have agreed to the outline of a deal. My sources in Moscow suggest this could be true. Zelensky, however, has not agreed as I've reported earlier. It's rumoured that he has until Monday to do so before the US pulls the plug on Kiev.
FANTASY
Seems self evident.
Only in propaganda space.
You are far from being a conscious being.
President Donald Trump on Thursday called on Russian President Vladimir Putin to halt missile and drone attacks on the Ukrainian capital Kyiv.
“I am not happy with the Russian strikes on KYIV,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.
“Not necessary, and very bad timing,” Trump wrote. “Vladimir, STOP!”
“5000 soldiers a week are dying. Lets get the Peace Deal DONE!”
“I am not happy with the Russian strikes on KYIV,” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post.
“Not necessary, and very bad timing,” Trump wrote. “Vladimir, STOP!”
“5000 soldiers a week are dying. Lets get the Peace Deal DONE!”
Scott
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I'd say that this mess had been developing during Trump's first term, but I do acknowledge that Trump may have avoided Russia's war with Ukraine. American Professor and Statesman Jeffrey Sachs certainly -tried- to persuade Biden's National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, to avoid the war, but Sullivan was confident that Russia wouldn't do it. Mr. Sachs explains how it went down:
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At the end of 2021, Putin put on the table a last effort to reach a modus operandi with the U.S., in two security agreement drafts, one with Europe and one with the United States. He put the Russia-U.S. draft agreement on the table on Dec. 15, 2021.
Following that, I had an hour-long call with [National Security Advisor] Jake Sullivan in the White House, begging, “Jake, avoid the war. You can avoid the war. All the U.S. has to do is say, ‘NATO will not enlarge to Ukraine.’” And he said to me, “Oh, NATO’s not going to enlarge to Ukraine. Don’t worry about it.”
I said, “Jake, say it publicly.”
“No. No. No. We can’t say it publicly.”
I said, “Jake, you’re going to have a war over something that isn’t even going to happen?”
He said, “Don’t worry, Jeff. There will be no war.”
These are not very bright people. I’m telling you, if I can give you my honest view, they’re not very bright people. They talk to themselves. They don’t talk to anybody else. They play game theory. In noncooperative game theory, you don’t talk to the other side. You just make your strategy. This is the essence of non-cooperative game theory. It’s not negotiation theory. It’s not peacemaking theory. It is unilateral, noncooperative theory, if you know formal game theory.
That’s what they play. That kind of game theory started [in application] at the RAND Corporation. That’s what they still play. In 2019, there’s a paper by RAND, “Extending Russia: Competing from Advantageous Ground.”
Incredibly, the paper, in the public domain, asks how the U.S. should annoy, antagonize, and weaken Russia. That’s literally the strategy. We’re trying to provoke Russia, trying to make Russia break apart, perhaps have regime change, maybe unrest, maybe an economic crisis.
That’s what you in Europe call your ally. So, there I was with my frustrating phone call with Sullivan, standing out in the freezing cold. I happened to be trying to have a ski day.
“Oh, there’ll be no war, Jeff.”
We know what happened next: the Biden administration refused to negotiate over NATO enlargement. The stupidest idea of NATO is the so-called open-door policy, based on Article 10 of the NATO Treaty (1949). NATO reserves the right to go where it wants, as long as the host government agrees, without any neighbor – such as Russia — having any say whatsoever.
Well, I tell the Mexicans and the Canadians, “Don’t try it.” You know, Trump may want to take over Canada. So, the Canadian government could say to China, “Why don’t you build a military base in Ontario?” I wouldn’t advise it. The U.S. would not say, “Well, it’s an open door. That’s Canada’s and China’s business, not ours.” The U.S. would invade Canada.
Yet grownups, including in Europe, in this Parliament, in NATO, in the European Commission, repeat the absurd mantra that Russia has no say in NATO enlargement. This is nonsense stuff. This is not even baby geopolitics. This is just not thinking at all. So, the Ukraine War escalated in February 2022 when the Biden Administration refused any serious negotiations.
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Full article:
Jeffrey Sachs: The Geopolitics of Peace
The author explains manipulative U.S. post-war foreign policy to European MPs, explodes myths about Ukraine and urges an independent European foreign policy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjcMoDFU1xg&ab_channel=MichaelvonderSchulenburg This is an edited transcript of Professor Jeffrey Sachs’
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Scott
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I certainly agree that it'd be ideal if Trump would take the U.S. out of the Ukraine conflict, but I think that his efforts at trying to find a diplomatic solution are still worth -something-, if not as much as a full withdrawal from the conflict.
Do you believe the Trump claims that a cease fire deal is almost done?
Scott
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I've seen no evidence for this. There's a big difference between wanting to make a peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia and being a "loyalist to Putin".
Scott
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No, simply because Trump has little control over what Zelensky does, especially now that he's resumed supporting Ukraine. Russia -had- agreed to a limited ceasefire on energy infrastructure and ran many articles on Zelensky breaking that agreement time and again. I think Russia's recent massive attack on Kyiv was Russia's way of saying that it was tired of one sided ceasefires where the only beneficiary was Ukraine.