Trump set to benefit from the Biden economy into 2025, unless he crashes it

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US economy poised for 'solid' growth in 2025​


The US economy is on solid footing right now.

Economists at Bank of America expect it to stay that way through next year.

In a research note released to reporters on Monday, BofA's economics team led by Claudio Irigoyen projected the US economy will grow at an annualized rate of 2.4% in 2025, higher than current forecasts for 2% growth, according to the latest Bloomberg consensus estimates.

This comes despite uncertainties surrounding the economic policies of President-elect Donald Trump, including campaign promises of tariffs on imported goods, tax cuts for corporations, and curbs on immigration, which economists have viewed as inflationary

Those proposals could also hinder economic growth and pressure an already bloated federal deficit, further complicating the Federal Reserve's path forward for interest rates.

 
The claim that the economy is fine is a fraud purchased with debt and sold with dishonest numbers.

The real economy is crashing already, and will only get worse.
 
If Trump had the economy of the past year - all of the jobs, the market breaking records, steady growth - he would have been shouting from the rooftops that it's the best economy EVAH.

Instead, he talked it down again & again & again. Now, he has to improve on it. With things like tariffs & mass deportation - it's hard to imagine him doing that.
 

US economy poised for 'solid' growth in 2025​


The US economy is on solid footing right now.

Economists at Bank of America expect it to stay that way through next year.

In a research note released to reporters on Monday, BofA's economics team led by Claudio Irigoyen projected the US economy will grow at an annualized rate of 2.4% in 2025, higher than current forecasts for 2% growth, according to the latest Bloomberg consensus estimates.

This comes despite uncertainties surrounding the economic policies of President-elect Donald Trump, including campaign promises of tariffs on imported goods, tax cuts for corporations, and curbs on immigration, which economists have viewed as inflationary

Those proposals could also hinder economic growth and pressure an already bloated federal deficit, further complicating the Federal Reserve's path forward for interest rates.

Until he crashes it.
 

US economy poised for 'solid' growth in 2025​


The US economy is on solid footing right now.

Economists at Bank of America expect it to stay that way through next year.

In a research note released to reporters on Monday, BofA's economics team led by Claudio Irigoyen projected the US economy will grow at an annualized rate of 2.4% in 2025, higher than current forecasts for 2% growth, according to the latest Bloomberg consensus estimates.

This comes despite uncertainties surrounding the economic policies of President-elect Donald Trump, including campaign promises of tariffs on imported goods, tax cuts for corporations, and curbs on immigration, which economists have viewed as inflationary

Those proposals could also hinder economic growth and pressure an already bloated federal deficit, further complicating the Federal Reserve's path forward for interest rates.

Stop peddling this bullshit. You people never learn do you?
 
Benefit? Have you been watching events? Major corporations laying off left and right, inflation still high, bankruptcies up by double digits. The economy sucks.
 
Benefit? Have you been watching events? Major corporations laying off left and right, inflation still high, bankruptcies up by double digits. The economy sucks.

Unemployment rate around 4%, millions of jobs added, average income up, steady growth throughout Biden's term, and the stock market is ridiculous.

If Trump tops that, I'll be really happy.
 
Unemployment rate around 4%,

It's actually much higher. The U30 (what you cite) doesn't include people who have stopped looking for work, or those that work off the books (aka "gig" work) etc.


millions of jobs added,

More like less than a million if you discount the Chinese Disease reopening of the economy.
average income up,

Real income adjusted for inflation is way down.

steady growth throughout Biden's term,

Steady? Try barely. The economy has shrunk when you adjust for inflation.
and the stock market is ridiculous.

Of course. The rich are getting richer and the stock market is keeping up or ahead of inflation. When you adjust for it, the stock market is up slightly overall.
If Trump tops that, I'll be really happy.
He'd have a hard time doing worse.
 
It's actually much higher. The U30 (what you cite) doesn't include people who have stopped looking for work, or those that work off the books (aka "gig" work) etc.




More like less than a million if you discount the Chinese Disease reopening of the economy.


Real income adjusted for inflation is way down.



Steady? Try barely. The economy has shrunk when you adjust for inflation.


Of course. The rich are getting richer and the stock market is keeping up or ahead of inflation. When you adjust for it, the stock market is up slightly overall.

He'd have a hard time doing worse.

"The rich are getting richer?" Are you a liberal?

The stock market always reflects the health of the economy.
 
Stop peddling this bullshit. You people never learn do you?
History is my guide. Every Democratic administration this century has handed a good and growing economy to an incoming Republican, and each time Republicans crashed the economy.
 
History is my guide. Every Democratic administration this century has handed a good and growing economy to an incoming Republican, and each time Republicans crashed the economy.
Of course of course whatever you say. You dimwits haven't figured it out yet have you?
 
There is some good economic data out there but it's still not all rosy. This is just reality no matter if Harris or Trump won.



The Economy Is Still Inflated

Biden-era high prices persist even as the Fed slows the rate of increase. Trump should take note.


The Federal Reserve has slowed inflation, but many Americans continue to pay a high price for the cumulative inflationary consequences of excessive monetary and fiscal stimulus.

We wrote in these pages in February 2021 that, based on history, high deficits combined with expansive monetary policy would trigger accelerating inflation. Joe Biden’s $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan was close to being enacted, but we never imagined that the Fed would maintain zero interest rates and continue its massive purchases of assets until March 2022, almost a year after inflation first began to surge. Today’s economy is still suffering from these policy excesses.

There’s a big difference between the rate of inflation, which measures the percentage change in the prices of all goods and services, and the actual price level consumers currently pay, which is the accumulation of past inflation. The Fed focuses its attention on achieving its dual mandate of 2% inflation and maximum employment. Meanwhile, it has no strategy to address the fact that the compounding of past inflation has raised consumer prices dramatically: The consumer-price index is about 22% higher than its pre-pandemic level. This is higher than the 19% rise in the Fed’s favored personal-consumption-expenditure price index, but the latter measure understates the increases in consumers’ out-of-pocket expenses by including items financed by third-party payers, such as Medicare, Medicaid and employer-provided health insurance.

Research by Fed staffers and other economists attributes the high inflation primarily to transitory supply shocks during the pandemic. But supply bottlenecks have now disappeared, and price levels remain well above the level that would be consistent with their pre-pandemic trajectory. It’s clear that excess demand generated by pandemic-era stimulus checks and extended monetary easing contributed significantly to the high inflation. Continued strong demand has led to healthy economic growth that exceeds the Fed’s estimates and sticky inflation that remains above the Fed’s target. Ironically, while the Fed characterizes its monetary policy as restrictive, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago’s Financial Conditions Index shows “looser-than-average” financial conditions.

Even as economic growth creates new jobs and workers’ wage gains begin to exceed inflation modestly, many middle- and lower-income earners have fallen behind as higher prices eat up larger shares of their incomes. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the costs of shelter, food and energy are up about 25%, 27% and 25%, respectively, since the onset of the pandemic. The 34% of Americans who rent their homes take little solace in new alternative measures of “core inflation” that omit the cost of housing.

The Case-Shiller National Home Price Index reports that house prices have risen more than 50% since year-end 2019, making homeowners wealthier. Besides driving up rental costs, this increase, along with the normalization of bond yields and mortgage rates, has set back a generation of prospective home buyers. Even as economic growth creates new jobs, higher prices lower Americans’ living standards.

Would different policies have made a difference? Definitely. Imagine if a trimmed-down American Rescue Plan had efficiently targeted financial support to the unemployed and those who really needed it, rather than issuing up-to-$1,400 checks to 165 million eligible Americans, most of whom were employed. After all, by April 2021, robust economic recovery had lowered the unemployment rate to 6.1% from a high of 14.8% the previous year.

Also imagine that the Fed had ended its massive purchases of U.S. Treasurys and mortgage-backed securities and started raising rates in mid-2021, when inflation and inflationary expectations first started rising well above 2% and the housing market was booming. Mortgage and consumer interest rates would have adjusted up accordingly. Growth in demand would have moderated, limiting inflation, halting the surge in home prices and rental costs, and slowing the rapid rise in consumer prices. Even with relatively slower economic growth, America would have been far better off.

Chalk the surge in deficit spending up to the exuberance of the newly elected Mr. Biden, who interpreted his victory as a mandate to transform America. Even as the American Rescue Plan checks were being distributed, Mr. Biden proposed further dramatic increases in spending, taxes and federal debt as part of his Build Back Better agenda. These expansions would have likely gone through had Sen. Joe Manchin not vigorously opposed them.

We hope these lessons aren’t lost on President-elect Trump, who, like most new presidents, reads his electoral victory as a mandate for radical change. We urge him to take a cautious approach on tariffs, spending, taxes, regulations and immigration. Misguided policies with unintended outcomes can quickly lose public support.

We understand that revisionist history is speculative. But such an exercise is nevertheless instructive for future economic and monetary policies.

Mr. Levy is a visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution. Mr. Bordo is an economics professor at Rutgers University and distinguished senior visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution. Both are members of the Shadow Open Market Committee.


 
History is my guide. Every Democratic administration this century has handed a good and growing economy to an incoming Republican, and each time Republicans crashed the economy.
That statement is false no matter how many times you claim it.
 
:lolup: You are in no position to complain about false allegations.
LOL!!! I would love to hear you explain how the economy in the span of one month (short of completely shutting down ala COVID) goes from good and growing to a recession. What's your economic theory behind how that works?
 
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