Trumpy-The-Klown; RUSSIA'S USEFUL FOOL

Mr. Shaman

Mr. Shaman

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November 3, 2016 - "There has always been a sympathetic authoritarian chord between the Republican presidential nominee and the Russian president. Both are on record as admiring The Strong Leader. They’ve even complimented one another on the trait. Putin could have been humming along when Trump was claiming “I alone can fix it” during his acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention. Maybe he was.

Each seems to have a pretty conspiratorial view of the world, too. Putin comes by his naturally. He’s a product of a KGB Marxist philosophy where “the other” — any other — is reflexively identified as hostile and created by immutable forces of history, something to be feared and ultimately crushed.

Sounding simultaneously populist and a little bit the conspiratorial Marxist, Trump has claimed that these unseen forces could rig the U.S. election. It’s a theme that Putin is happy to echo. Indeed, it’s a theme that his intelligence services are happy to actively propagate.

And in that case, the American presidential candidate routinely comes to the defense of his Russian soul mate. In the face of a high-confidence judgment of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee and then weaponized embarrassing emails to sow confusion here, the man who would be president has declared: “Our country has no idea,” “I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. . . . It could also be lots of other people” and “They always blame Russia.”

Rejecting a fact-based intelligence assessment — not because of compelling contrarian data, but because it is inconsistent with a preexisting worldview — that’s the stuff of ideological authoritarianism, not pragmatic democracy. And it is frightening."

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November 4, 2016 - "In phone calls, meetings and cables, America’s European allies have expressed alarm to one another about Donald Trump’s public statements denying Moscow’s role in cyberattacks designed to interfere with the U.S. election. They fear the Republican nominee for president has emboldened the Kremlin in its unprecedented cyber-campaign to disrupt elections in multiple countries in hopes of weakening Western alliances, according to intelligence, law enforcement and other government officials in the United States and Europe.

While American intelligence officers have privately briefed Trump about Russia’s attempts to influence the U.S. election, he has publicly dismissed that information as unreliable, instead saying this hacking of incredible sophistication and technical complexity could have been done by some 400-pound “guy sitting on their bed” or even a child.

Officials from two European countries told Newsweek that Trump’s comments about Russia’s hacking have alarmed several NATO partners because it suggests he either does not believe the information he receives in intelligence briefings, does not pay attention to it, does not understand it or is misleading the American public for unknown reasons. One British official said members of that government who are aware of the scope of Russia’s cyberattacks both in Western Europe and America found Trump’s comments “quite disturbing” because they fear that, if elected, the Republican presidential nominee would continue to ignore information gathered by intelligence services in the formulation of U.S. foreign policy.

Trump’s behavior, however, has at times concerned the Russians, leading them to revise their hacking and disinformation strategy. For example, when Trump launched into an inexplicable attack on the parents of a Muslim-American soldier who died in combat, the Kremlin assumed the Republican nominee was showing himself psychologically unfit to be president and would be forced by his party to withdraw from the race. As a result, Moscow put its hacking campaign temporarily on hold, ending the distribution of documents until Trump stabilized, both personally and in the polls, according to reports provided to Western intelligence.

America’s European partners are also troubled by the actions of several people close to Trump’s campaign and company. Trump has been surrounded by advisors and associates with economic and familial links to Russia. The publicized connections and contacts between former campaign manager Paul Manafort with Ukraine have raised concerns. Former Trump advisor Carter Page is being probed by American and European intelligence on allegations that he engaged in back-channel discussions with Russian government officials over the summer.

Western intelligence has also obtained reports that a Trump associate met with a pro-Putin member of Russian parliament at a building in eastern Europe maintained by Rossotrudnichestvo, an agency under the Ministry of Foreign Affairs that is charged with administering language, education and support programs for civilians. While the purpose of that meeting is unclear and there is no evidence that Trump was aware it took place, it has become another fact that has alarmed officials from at least one NATO ally.

Trump and his campaign have also spread propaganda created as part of the Kremlin's effort, relying on bogus information generated through traditional Russian disinformation techniques. In one instance, a manipulated document was put out onto the internet anonymously by propagandists working with Russia; within hours, Trump was reciting that false information at a campaign rally."

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Ronald U. Swanson said:
trump and hillary are about as useful as a bowl of candy wrappers when it comes to foreign policy
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Shaman - OK, so how much did you enjoy the COLD WAR? Perhaps you were not alive then, but I was and the Soviet Union was a mysterious and deadly giant that loomed over the fears of Americans. The greatness and power of America was unmatched - except when considering the nuclear arsenal that pretty much cancelled out ours. Mix that with the tragedies of a communist society, along with all of the corruption and we lived under uneasy circumstances since we were the number 1 enemy of that evil empire.

Repeating that is in no-ones interest. Hillary is hellbent at setting up the same adversarial relationship. So whats wrong with a fresh approach. The upside is significant and a partnership could provide many positive things in the world. But don't mistake - Trump is totally America first. Vote Trump!
 
tmagee said:
Shaman - OK, so how much did you enjoy the COLD WAR?
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I wasn't a big fan o' standing in one of 3 lines (in the hallway, next to our cafeteria), waiting for the bombs to start falling. Our families always watched "The 20th Century" (Sunday evenings??), and we saw plenty of the same such instances that happened during WWII....so, we knew what to expect.


 
Mr. Shaman said:
.....Especially after Putie's gone to all-the-work of coming-up with a new name (for it), right??


He admits its not a USSR thing, not sure what the big deal is here. It depends on the framework and definitely something to watch closely. I think its a different situation now and requires a different relationship -- not a reversion back to the cold war days like Hillary is prompting.​
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tmagee said:
He admits its not a USSR thing.....
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.....Like a good, lil' ex-KGB-agent!!


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http://thecount.com/2014/03/05/vladimir-putin-spotted-in-1988-ronald-reagan-photo/

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http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...how-the-1980s-explains-vladimir-putin/273135/

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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2014/12/18/how-he-and-his-cronies-stole-russia/

Yeah....that's a comfort!!

Fortunately, Hillary's (already) got him all-figured-out......and, as usual.....Trumpy STILL doesn't know SHIT!!


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Trump-fans & Teabaggers.....​
 
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