The witnesses I quoted in post #5 were, and still are, residents of Donetsk Oblast. Their identities were protected in the Netherlands court because their lives would be in danger if they were publicly revealed. They gave sworn testimony to an examining magistrate for this trial.
The witnesses you cited appeared on a TV show.
First, I think it'd be best to specify it was a documentary on the Malaysian Airlines aicraft that was downed in Ukraine. Secondly, do you have any evidence that these alleged anonymous witnesses are actually residents of Donetsk Oblast? The alleged witnesses on the TV show, by contrast, have made video testimony that anyone can see.
As for the BBC documentary, part of a long-running series called The Conspiracy Files, the BBC press office issued a statement referring to a tabloid newspaper report which appeared before the documentary was aired:
“The Sunday Express has misrepresented this programme. Contrary to their headline, experts in fact tell the programme it was unlikely a Ukrainian fighter jet could have shot down MH17 as they cannot fly at such high altitudes.
That's apparently false. From a Special Report to 21st Century Wire:
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5. Ukrainian Fighter Jet (confirmation of model TBC) appears on radar, trailing MH17 at same altitude, est. 4km behind it at 5:21pm
Note: the pilots and passengers of Singapore Airlines Flight
SIA351 were close enough to have visually observed, at high altitude, the demise of MH17. At 5:20pm MH17 began to abruptly lose speed, eventually slowing to 124mph (200kmph). About this time, possibly an
Su-25 Ukrainian fighter jet appears on ATC radar climbing in the direction of MH17, before trailing MH17 on the same flight path approximately 3-5km behind MH17, rapidly approaching the same flight level – only minutes before MH17 disappeared on radar. Note that a Ukrainian fighter would not have been visible on ATC radar before it broke the ATC long-range standby radar tracking ceiling of 5km in altitude. Civilian ATC radar would not be able to identify this Su-25 as military because no secondary detection system is mounted – typical for military aircraft. Over the next four minutes, the Ukrainian fighter remained in the area. Note also that the Su-25 can be armed with air-to-air R-60 missiles with a range of up to 5km-12km, but as 21WIRE has discovered, the Su-25 is not the only combat aircraft the Ukrainian Air Force has in its possession.
On June 4, 2014,
Janes Defense reported that Kiev have recently returned to service two other higher performance fighters, including the
Su-27 ‘Flanker’ and the
MiG-29 ‘Fulcrum’ fighters.
The altitude ceiling performance characteristics of all in-service Ukrainian fighters are as follows: .
Su-25 ‘Frogfoot’ fighter – Ceiling: 23,000 ft/ 7,000 m, or up to 32,800 ft/ 10,000 m (depending aircraft modifications)
Su-27 ‘Flanker’ fighter – Ceiling: 64,000 ft/ 19,000 m
MiG-29 ‘Fulcrum’ jet – Ceiling: 59,000 ft/ 18,000 m
Su-24 ‘Fencer’ fighter – Ceiling: 36,000 ft/ 11,000 m, or up to 57,400 ft/ 17,500 m (depending on variations of turbo intake)
Although the exact altitude position of MH17 is not yet know for every given second of its final minutes, it’s clear that a Ukrainian combat jet was in its shadow. Suffice to say, Kiev had a number of combat aircraft capable of engaging MH17 at within a wide range of altitudes, as well as firing air-to-air missile at short range (3-5km)either upwards, or downward angles using laser guided targeting which is standard on many of these models.
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Full article:
MH17 Verdict: Real Evidence Points to US-Kiev Cover-up of Failed False Flag | 21st Century Wire
As you may have noticed, the Jane's Defense article link doesn't work at the moment. I've tried to find it by searching for it, but haven't yet been able to.
Wikipedia's page does list all of the above aircraft as in Ukraine's military, but it doesn't say when they were all acquired:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Air_Force#Aircraft
