Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud | Aaron Mate

[Scott]

The article from which this thread draws its title is mostly paywalled, but I think the non paywalled portion is still quite interesting. Quoting it below:
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A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."​

Jul 07, 2025

Since his first term in the White House, President Donald Trump has promised accountability for Russiagate, the manufactured controversy in which the Hillary Clinton campaign and national security officials framed Trump and his associates as conspirators with Moscow.

Despite investigations in all branches of government, Trump has yet to deliver. The most thorough probe, launched in Trump’s first term by Special Counsel John Durham and concluding in 2023, faulted the FBI for relying on the Clinton-funded collection of conspiracy fiction known as the “Steele dossier” and other compromised material in a baseless hunt for Trump-Russia collusion. Yet Durham only brought two cases to trial against relatively minor actors, both of which ended in acquittals. Instead of wielding his subpoena power, Durham let many of Russiagate’s main principals ignore his requests for an interview. And while he exposed new malfeasance behind the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, Durham left unscathed the companion, equally dubious allegation that Russia waged a “sweeping and systematic” campaign, as Robert Mueller and a legion of credulous media outlets put it, to sway the 2016 campaign in Trump’s favor.

Durham’s timidity on that latter front was especially derelict given the fact that his office obtained evidence that freshly exposed “Russian interference” as yet another Clinton campaign-generated deceit, as I reported in June 2023. Along with every other investigation and establishment media outlet, Durham also ignored the admission under oath that CrowdStrike – another Clinton campaign contractor relied on by the FBI, and the source for the foundational allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and gave them to Wikileaks to help Trump -- in fact “did not have concrete evidence” of Russian hacking.

A new review ordered by Trump’s CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, follows in the tepid, half-baked record of Russiagate accountability to date.
**

Source:

Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."

www.aaronmate.net

 

[Nordberg]

Not manufactured. Many in Trump's election staff were communicating directly with Russian hackers. Manafort was providing them election data. Stone was the liaison and was directly involved in passing info. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election Trump pardoned them to save himself.

 

[Trumpet]

The article from which this thread draws its title is mostly paywalled, but I think the non paywalled portion is still quite interesting. Quoting it below:
**

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."​

Jul 07, 2025

Since his first term in the White House, President Donald Trump has promised accountability for Russiagate, the manufactured controversy in which the Hillary Clinton campaign and national security officials framed Trump and his associates as conspirators with Moscow.

Despite investigations in all branches of government, Trump has yet to deliver. The most thorough probe, launched in Trump’s first term by Special Counsel John Durham and concluding in 2023, faulted the FBI for relying on the Clinton-funded collection of conspiracy fiction known as the “Steele dossier” and other compromised material in a baseless hunt for Trump-Russia collusion. Yet Durham only brought two cases to trial against relatively minor actors, both of which ended in acquittals. Instead of wielding his subpoena power, Durham let many of Russiagate’s main principals ignore his requests for an interview. And while he exposed new malfeasance behind the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, Durham left unscathed the companion, equally dubious allegation that Russia waged a “sweeping and systematic” campaign, as Robert Mueller and a legion of credulous media outlets put it, to sway the 2016 campaign in Trump’s favor.

Durham’s timidity on that latter front was especially derelict given the fact that his office obtained evidence that freshly exposed “Russian interference” as yet another Clinton campaign-generated deceit, as I reported in June 2023. Along with every other investigation and establishment media outlet, Durham also ignored the admission under oath that CrowdStrike – another Clinton campaign contractor relied on by the FBI, and the source for the foundational allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and gave them to Wikileaks to help Trump -- in fact “did not have concrete evidence” of Russian hacking.

A new review ordered by Trump’s CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, follows in the tepid, half-baked record of Russiagate accountability to date.
**

Source:

Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."

www.aaronmate.net

Is that surprising?????

 

[Scott]

Not manufactured. Many in Trump's election staff were communicating directly with Russian hackers. Manafort was providing them election data. Stone was the liaison and was directly involved in passing info. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election Trump pardoned them to save himself.

No solid evidence that Manafort colluded with the Russians. What there -is- evidence of is that democrats leaned on the Ukrainian government to smear Manafort in order to draw attention away from Burisma, Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton's campaign. From another article by Aaron Mate published a bit over a year ago:
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Starting in early 2016, U.S. officials leaned on the Ukrainians to investigate Paul Manafort, the GOP consultant who would become Trump’s campaign manager, and avoid scrutiny of Burisma, as RCI reported in 2022. “Obama’s NSC hosted Ukrainian officials and told them to stop investigating Hunter Biden and start investigating Paul Manafort,” a former senior NSC official told RCI. In January 2016, the FBI suddenly reopened a closed investigation into Manafort for potential money laundering and tax evasion connected to his work in Ukraine.

Telizhenko, who attended a White House meeting with Ukrainian colleagues that same month, says he witnessed Justice Department officials pressing representatives of Ukraine’s Corruption Bureau. “The U.S. officials were asking for the Ukrainian officials to get any information, financial information, about Americans working for the former government of Ukraine, the Yanukovych government,” he says.

By the time Telizhenko spoke out, Ukrainian officials had already admitted intervening in the 2016 election to help Clinton’s campaign. In August, Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) released what it claimed was a secret ledger showing that Manafort received millions in illicit cash payments from Yanukovych’s party. The Clinton campaign, then in the early stages of its effort to portray their Republican rival as a Russian conspirator, seized on the news as evidence of Trump’s “troubling connections” to “pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine.”

The alleged ledger was first obtained by Ukrainian lawmaker Serhiy Leshchenko, who had claimed that he had received it anonymously by mail. Yet Leshchenko was not an impartial source: He made no effort to hide his efforts to help elect Clinton. “A Trump presidency would change the pro-Ukrainian agenda in American foreign policy,” Leshchenko told the Financial Times. For him, “it was important to show ... that [Trump] is [a] pro-Russian candidate who can break the geopolitical balance in the world.” Accordingly, he added, most of Ukraine’s politicians were “on Hillary Clinton’s side.”

Manafort, who would be convicted of unrelated tax and other financial crimes in 2018, denied the allegation. The ledger was handwritten and did not match the amounts that Manafort was paid in electronic wire transfers. Moreover, the ledger was said to have been stored at Yanukovych’s party headquarters, yet that building was burned in a 2014 riot by Maidan activists.

Telizhenko agrees with Manafort that the ledger was a fabrication. “I think the ledger was just made up because nobody saw it, and nobody got the official documents themselves. From my understanding it was all a toss-up, a made-up story, just because they could not find any dirt on the Trump campaign.”

But with the U.S. media starting to amplify the Clinton campaign’s Trump-Russia conspiracy theories, a wary Trump demanded Manafort's resignation. “The easiest way for Trump to sidestep the whole Ukraine story is for Manafort not to be there,” Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker and a Trump campaign adviser, explained.
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Source:

How 10 years of US meddling in Ukraine undermined democracy and fueled war

While the Biden administration claims to be "defending democracy" in Ukraine, its role there has caused political upheaval from Kyiv to Washington. A Ukrainian insider reveals new details.

www.aaronmate.net

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

Not manufactured. Many in Trump's election staff were communicating directly with Russian hackers. Manafort was providing them election data. Stone was the liaison and was directly involved in passing info. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election Trump pardoned them to save himself.

You are one gullible idiot.

 

[Scott]

The article from which this thread draws its title is mostly paywalled, but I think the non paywalled portion is still quite interesting. Quoting it below:
**

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."​

Jul 07, 2025

Since his first term in the White House, President Donald Trump has promised accountability for Russiagate, the manufactured controversy in which the Hillary Clinton campaign and national security officials framed Trump and his associates as conspirators with Moscow.

Despite investigations in all branches of government, Trump has yet to deliver. The most thorough probe, launched in Trump’s first term by Special Counsel John Durham and concluding in 2023, faulted the FBI for relying on the Clinton-funded collection of conspiracy fiction known as the “Steele dossier” and other compromised material in a baseless hunt for Trump-Russia collusion. Yet Durham only brought two cases to trial against relatively minor actors, both of which ended in acquittals. Instead of wielding his subpoena power, Durham let many of Russiagate’s main principals ignore his requests for an interview. And while he exposed new malfeasance behind the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, Durham left unscathed the companion, equally dubious allegation that Russia waged a “sweeping and systematic” campaign, as Robert Mueller and a legion of credulous media outlets put it, to sway the 2016 campaign in Trump’s favor.

Durham’s timidity on that latter front was especially derelict given the fact that his office obtained evidence that freshly exposed “Russian interference” as yet another Clinton campaign-generated deceit, as I reported in June 2023. Along with every other investigation and establishment media outlet, Durham also ignored the admission under oath that CrowdStrike – another Clinton campaign contractor relied on by the FBI, and the source for the foundational allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and gave them to Wikileaks to help Trump -- in fact “did not have concrete evidence” of Russian hacking.

A new review ordered by Trump’s CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, follows in the tepid, half-baked record of Russiagate accountability to date.
**

Source:

Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."

www.aaronmate.net

Is that surprising?????

I thought it was, at least in so far as exposing Russiagate for the fraud it was would benefit Trump. But Trump has a lot of concerns and so it looks like he's overlooked the fact that the CIA continues to cover up certain aspects of it.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

No solid evidence that Manafort colluded with the Russians. There -is- evidence that the democrats leaned on the Ukrainians to smear him in order to draw attention away from Burisma and Hillary Clinton's campaign though. From another article by Aaron Mate published a bit over a year ago:
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Starting in early 2016, U.S. officials leaned on the Ukrainians to investigate Paul Manafort, the GOP consultant who would become Trump’s campaign manager, and avoid scrutiny of Burisma, as RCI reported in 2022. “Obama’s NSC hosted Ukrainian officials and told them to stop investigating Hunter Biden and start investigating Paul Manafort,” a former senior NSC official told RCI. In January 2016, the FBI suddenly reopened a closed investigation into Manafort for potential money laundering and tax evasion connected to his work in Ukraine.

Telizhenko, who attended a White House meeting with Ukrainian colleagues that same month, says he witnessed Justice Department officials pressing representatives of Ukraine’s Corruption Bureau. “The U.S. officials were asking for the Ukrainian officials to get any information, financial information, about Americans working for the former government of Ukraine, the Yanukovych government,” he says.

By the time Telizhenko spoke out, Ukrainian officials had already admitted intervening in the 2016 election to help Clinton’s campaign. In August, Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) released what it claimed was a secret ledger showing that Manafort received millions in illicit cash payments from Yanukovych’s party. The Clinton campaign, then in the early stages of its effort to portray their Republican rival as a Russian conspirator, seized on the news as evidence of Trump’s “troubling connections” to “pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine.”

The alleged ledger was first obtained by Ukrainian lawmaker Serhiy Leshchenko, who had claimed that he had received it anonymously by mail. Yet Leshchenko was not an impartial source: He made no effort to hide his efforts to help elect Clinton. “A Trump presidency would change the pro-Ukrainian agenda in American foreign policy,” Leshchenko told the Financial Times. For him, “it was important to show ... that [Trump] is [a] pro-Russian candidate who can break the geopolitical balance in the world.” Accordingly, he added, most of Ukraine’s politicians were “on Hillary Clinton’s side.”

Manafort, who would be convicted of unrelated tax and other financial crimes in 2018, denied the allegation. The ledger was handwritten and did not match the amounts that Manafort was paid in electronic wire transfers. Moreover, the ledger was said to have been stored at Yanukovych’s party headquarters, yet that building was burned in a 2014 riot by Maidan activists.

Telizhenko agrees with Manafort that the ledger was a fabrication. “I think the ledger was just made up because nobody saw it, and nobody got the official documents themselves. From my understanding it was all a toss-up, a made-up story, just because they could not find any dirt on the Trump campaign.”

But with the U.S. media starting to amplify the Clinton campaign’s Trump-Russia conspiracy theories, a wary Trump demanded Manafort's resignation. “The easiest way for Trump to sidestep the whole Ukraine story is for Manafort not to be there,” Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker and a Trump campaign adviser, explained.
**

Source:

How 10 years of US meddling in Ukraine undermined democracy and fueled war

While the Biden administration claims to be "defending democracy" in Ukraine, its role there has caused political upheaval from Kyiv to Washington. A Ukrainian insider reveals new details.

www.aaronmate.net

Everyone knows in their hearts who the real criminals were but TDS prevents many from admitting it.

Hating DJT and the Democrats being criminals are not mutually exclusive things.

But unfortunately TDS melts the part of the brain that uses logic.

 

[Scott]

Not manufactured. Many in Trump's election staff were communicating directly with Russian hackers. Manafort was providing them election data. Stone was the liaison and was directly involved in passing info. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/senate-panel-finds-russia-interfered-in-the-2016-us-election Trump pardoned them to save himself.

You are one gullible idiot.

I believe we're on the same side in this debate, I just don't think that your response to Nordberg actually helps in trying to find an agreement with people who still believe many key aspects of Russiagate.

 

[Scott]

No solid evidence that Manafort colluded with the Russians. What there -is- evidence of is that democrats leaned on the Ukrainian government to smear Manafort in order to draw attention away from Burisma, Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton's campaign. From another article by Aaron Mate published a bit over a year ago:
**
Starting in early 2016, U.S. officials leaned on the Ukrainians to investigate Paul Manafort, the GOP consultant who would become Trump’s campaign manager, and avoid scrutiny of Burisma, as RCI reported in 2022. “Obama’s NSC hosted Ukrainian officials and told them to stop investigating Hunter Biden and start investigating Paul Manafort,” a former senior NSC official told RCI. In January 2016, the FBI suddenly reopened a closed investigation into Manafort for potential money laundering and tax evasion connected to his work in Ukraine.

Telizhenko, who attended a White House meeting with Ukrainian colleagues that same month, says he witnessed Justice Department officials pressing representatives of Ukraine’s Corruption Bureau. “The U.S. officials were asking for the Ukrainian officials to get any information, financial information, about Americans working for the former government of Ukraine, the Yanukovych government,” he says.

By the time Telizhenko spoke out, Ukrainian officials had already admitted intervening in the 2016 election to help Clinton’s campaign. In August, Ukraine’s National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) released what it claimed was a secret ledger showing that Manafort received millions in illicit cash payments from Yanukovych’s party. The Clinton campaign, then in the early stages of its effort to portray their Republican rival as a Russian conspirator, seized on the news as evidence of Trump’s “troubling connections” to “pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine.”

The alleged ledger was first obtained by Ukrainian lawmaker Serhiy Leshchenko, who had claimed that he had received it anonymously by mail. Yet Leshchenko was not an impartial source: He made no effort to hide his efforts to help elect Clinton. “A Trump presidency would change the pro-Ukrainian agenda in American foreign policy,” Leshchenko told the Financial Times. For him, “it was important to show ... that [Trump] is [a] pro-Russian candidate who can break the geopolitical balance in the world.” Accordingly, he added, most of Ukraine’s politicians were “on Hillary Clinton’s side.”

Manafort, who would be convicted of unrelated tax and other financial crimes in 2018, denied the allegation. The ledger was handwritten and did not match the amounts that Manafort was paid in electronic wire transfers. Moreover, the ledger was said to have been stored at Yanukovych’s party headquarters, yet that building was burned in a 2014 riot by Maidan activists.

Telizhenko agrees with Manafort that the ledger was a fabrication. “I think the ledger was just made up because nobody saw it, and nobody got the official documents themselves. From my understanding it was all a toss-up, a made-up story, just because they could not find any dirt on the Trump campaign.”

But with the U.S. media starting to amplify the Clinton campaign’s Trump-Russia conspiracy theories, a wary Trump demanded Manafort's resignation. “The easiest way for Trump to sidestep the whole Ukraine story is for Manafort not to be there,” Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker and a Trump campaign adviser, explained.
**

Source:

How 10 years of US meddling in Ukraine undermined democracy and fueled war

While the Biden administration claims to be "defending democracy" in Ukraine, its role there has caused political upheaval from Kyiv to Washington. A Ukrainian insider reveals new details.

www.aaronmate.net

Everyone knows in their hearts who the real criminals were but TDS prevents many from admitting it.

Hating DJT and the Democrats being criminals are not mutually exclusive things.

But unfortunately TDS melts the part of the brain that uses logic.

I don't know what everyone knows in their hearts, I just think we can agree that Trump and his team never colluded with Russia, but the democrats leaned on the Ukrainians to come up with a story that made Trump and his team look bad. I'm not sure if certain key democrats, such as those behind Hillary's campaign, -asked- the Ukrainians to lie in order to come up something that pleased the democrats, but it looks like that's what the Ukrainians did.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

I believe we're on the same side in this debate, I just don't think that your response to Nordberg actually helps in trying to find an agreement with people who still believe many key aspects of Russiagate.

Nordberg isn't a person who's agreement or approval is either obtainable or valuable. He, she or whatever the fuck it is continues to spew the stupidest shit of practically anyone here on a board infested with nitwits.

And yes we are mostly on the same side of most debates here. You're just a lot more tolerant and polite than I am but if you think you're winning hearts and minds of these utter fools with logical debate you're kidding yourself.

I tried that for many years and now have to admit there isn't hope and the differences are indeed irreconcilable.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

I don't know what everyone knows in their hearts, I just think we can agree that Trump and his team never colluded with Russia, but the democrats leaned on the Ukrainians to come up with a story that made Trump and his team look bad. I'm not sure if certain key democrats, such as those behind Hillary's campaign, -asked- the Ukrainians to lie in order to come up something that pleased the democrats, but it looks like that's what the Ukrainians did.

Of course he didn't but there are many here who will go to their graves thinking otherwise no matter what comes to light.

These people are not reachable. Therefore there is no purpose in trying to present them with facts or reason. They exist to be scorned and shunned all the while hoping there will be no procreation from them.

I used to be tolerant of these fools but my patience is gone.

 

[Yakuda]

The article from which this thread draws its title is mostly paywalled, but I think the non paywalled portion is still quite interesting. Quoting it below:
**

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."​

Jul 07, 2025

Since his first term in the White House, President Donald Trump has promised accountability for Russiagate, the manufactured controversy in which the Hillary Clinton campaign and national security officials framed Trump and his associates as conspirators with Moscow.

Despite investigations in all branches of government, Trump has yet to deliver. The most thorough probe, launched in Trump’s first term by Special Counsel John Durham and concluding in 2023, faulted the FBI for relying on the Clinton-funded collection of conspiracy fiction known as the “Steele dossier” and other compromised material in a baseless hunt for Trump-Russia collusion. Yet Durham only brought two cases to trial against relatively minor actors, both of which ended in acquittals. Instead of wielding his subpoena power, Durham let many of Russiagate’s main principals ignore his requests for an interview. And while he exposed new malfeasance behind the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, Durham left unscathed the companion, equally dubious allegation that Russia waged a “sweeping and systematic” campaign, as Robert Mueller and a legion of credulous media outlets put it, to sway the 2016 campaign in Trump’s favor.

Durham’s timidity on that latter front was especially derelict given the fact that his office obtained evidence that freshly exposed “Russian interference” as yet another Clinton campaign-generated deceit, as I reported in June 2023. Along with every other investigation and establishment media outlet, Durham also ignored the admission under oath that CrowdStrike – another Clinton campaign contractor relied on by the FBI, and the source for the foundational allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and gave them to Wikileaks to help Trump -- in fact “did not have concrete evidence” of Russian hacking.

A new review ordered by Trump’s CIA Director, John Ratcliffe, follows in the tepid, half-baked record of Russiagate accountability to date.
**

Source:

Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud

A new CIA review faults top Obama intelligence officials for "procedural anomalies", while ignoring the core deceit in their allegations of "Russian interference."

www.aaronmate.net

You had 4 years under the dope in chief to expose trumps ties to Russia but you didnt do it? How come? Oh thats right its all made up like the "rape" of that retarded gold digging whore.