Vaccines and autism

Watermark said:
Yeah I don't really like arguing emotionally involved people like you. They get extremely defensive and start think you're calling them a liar or a gullible idiot - which couldn't be further from the truth. I understand exactly how Meg got to where she is, and I respect that.
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Yeah, I can relate.
 
You missed something vital in my earlier posts. I am not saying that the MMR is the cause of autism. What I am saying is that it causes severe reactions in many children when given as a multiple dose. It has been known to cause severe illness and sometimes even death. Also there is a link between those who get ITP and the MMR. As far as autism is concerned, I think that it can be a trigger for some children, but I also believe that there are also many other environmental factors or triggers. In my son, I believe it was his severe reaction to the MMR. In others it is probably some other environmental trigger.

I also said that I had multiple MMR's around the time my children were born. I think that had something to do with it as well.
 
TexasMeg said:
You missed something vital in my earlier posts. I am not saying that the MMR is the cause of autism. What I am saying is that it causes severe reactions in many children when given as a multiple dose. It has been known to cause severe illness and sometimes even death. Also there is a link between those who get ITP and the MMR. As far as autism is concerned, I think that it can be a trigger for some children, but I also believe that there are also many other environmental factors or triggers. In my son, I believe it was his severe reaction to the MMR. In others it is probably some other environmental trigger.

I also said that I had multiple MMR's around the time my children were born. I think that had something to do with it as well.
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Yes. Hence, in my post, the part about reactions.

I understand your premise, and again I think it warrants study, but it is not proof any more than me showing kids with reactions that did not then get autism would be proof to the opposite.

It is an observed phenomena that can be used as a basis for a study, one can use it to form a hypothesis and begin to form testing to see if the hypothesis holds weight.

Until doctors have a more certain idea of what causes autism, saying it was "this" reaction that did it is simply anecdotal and not evidentiary.
 
TexasMeg said:
You missed something vital in my earlier posts. I am not saying that the MMR is the cause of autism. What I am saying is that it causes severe reactions in many children when given as a multiple dose. It has been known to cause severe illness and sometimes even death. Also there is a link between those who get ITP and the MMR. As far as autism is concerned, I think that it can be a trigger for some children, but I also believe that there are also many other environmental factors or triggers. In my son, I believe it was his severe reaction to the MMR. In others it is probably some other environmental trigger.

I also said that I had multiple MMR's around the time my children were born. I think that had something to do with it as well.
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I know someone who got ITP from the MMR. confirmed!
 
TexasMeg said:
You missed something vital in my earlier posts. I am not saying that the MMR is the cause of autism. What I am saying is that it causes severe reactions in many children when given as a multiple dose. It has been known to cause severe illness and sometimes even death. Also there is a link between those who get ITP and the MMR. As far as autism is concerned, I think that it can be a trigger for some children, but I also believe that there are also many other environmental factors or triggers. In my son, I believe it was his severe reaction to the MMR. In others it is probably some other environmental trigger.

I also said that I had multiple MMR's around the time my children were born. I think that had something to do with it as well.
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Was your son misdiagnosed?

You said he was off the spectrum, but autism isn't supposed to be curable. Is their any evidence he got some other condition that doctors confused with autism that just went away with time?
 
Watermark said:
Was your son misdiagnosed?

You said he was off the spectrum, but autism isn't supposed to be curable. Is their any evidence he got some other condition that doctors confused with autism that just went away with time?
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Autism is treatable...not necessarily curable. He had no other indicators that there was anything else wrong, and he had tale tell signs. This was a child who would open and close a door for an hour straight, spin a wheel on a toy car for 20 minutes. He wouldn't notice when we walked in a room, or wouldn't acknowledge anyway. He was diagnosed at 18 months and went through all sorts of genetic and allergy testing. His blood tests came back showing high levels of heavy metals, and his allergy tests came back showing severe reactions to milk, wheat, soy, and some nuts.

At that point I began researching and noticed that these test results were common in children diagnosed with autism. I began changing his diet (I did it with his twin sister too even tho not autistic). I put him on a gluten free casein free diet, began vitamin and mineral supplements, and mild chelations. I only used epsom salt for the removal of toxins, as it is known to be a gentle process. He was right around 2 years old when i began this, and within a few months he was talking again, though only a few words. Today he is 3 1/2 and speaks in sentences, is very social, and has been removed from the spectrum.

On a side note, my daughter, who is not autistic, was on the same regimen minus the epsom salts. After a few weeks her eczema, which until that point had been very severe, disappeared.

Biomedical treatments have often been shown to treat and cure many disorders.
 
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