Voter ID is not voter suppression

Correct for the most part. But eliminating drop boxes, limiting voting hours, and removing polling places in black communities IS voter suppression. And those are only examples. Even more dangerous is allowing a partisan body to overturn an election result. These efforts will fail. A Voting Rights Act will pass, and these laws will be struck down.
 
Nordberg said:
Our voters are identified. We do not have a problem with people assuming other people's identities It is super rare. It just does not work.
Yes forcing people to have ID is a problem serious enough that it will take away many people's right to vote.
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Correct. Forcing someone to obtain an ID is unnecessary. They can prove residence with many other documents, and those documents ARE required to register and vote. So the entire Voter ID meme is meaningless. There is no significant organized voter fraud. It is a non-existent problem. Completely made up by citing the rare anecdote. Frankly, in most cases, the persons committing this fraud are Republicans.
 
Nordberg said:
Our voters are identified. We do not have a problem with people assuming other people's identities It is super rare. It just does not work.
Yes forcing people to have ID is a problem serious enough that it will take away many people's right to vote.
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that is bullshit, we don't know if we have a problem as there is no verification presently going on in several areas of our voting process, democrats have always been the party of dishonesty and low integrity
 
Concart said:
Correct for the most part. But eliminating drop boxes, limiting voting hours, and removing polling places in black communities IS voter suppression. And those are only examples. Even more dangerous is allowing a partisan body to overturn an election result. These efforts will fail. A Voting Rights Act will pass, and these laws will be struck down.
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Good luck asshole next midterms your dick head party will loose control were sick of twisted democrts perverted laws
 
archives said:
You saying the US should model itself after India?

Voter ID is not a problem, Voter ID fraud is near nonexistent, “occurs 0.00006 percent" of the time and has been found to have any on any election outcome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_impersonation_(United_States) (https://www.brennancenter.org/issue...an-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud)

So the question becomes why disenfranchise any voter over something that has yet to be proven necessary
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Voter ID is a problem. Voter fraud is a problem. The much bigger problem is election fraud. Voter ID can actually help there as well to some extent.
 
Nordberg said:
Our voters are identified. We do not have a problem with people assuming other people's identities It is super rare. It just does not work.
Yes forcing people to have ID is a problem serious enough that it will take away many people's right to vote.
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An ID does not take away a person's right to vote.
 
Concart said:
Correct. Forcing someone to obtain an ID is unnecessary.
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It is ALREADY REQUIRED.
Concart said:
They can prove residence with many other documents, and those documents ARE required to register and vote.
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What the fuck do you think are are generating when you register to vote????? Voter ID!. The only difference is having a photo on voter ID.
Concart said:
So the entire Voter ID meme is meaningless.
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Not a meme.
Concart said:
There is no significant organized voter fraud.
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Yes there is....by Democrats. There is also massive election fraud...by Democrats.
Concart said:
It is a non-existent problem. Completely made up by citing the rare anecdote. Frankly, in most cases, the persons committing this fraud are Republicans.
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Republicans are not Democrats.
 
archives said:
You saying the US should model itself after India?

Voter ID is not a problem, Voter ID fraud is near nonexistent, “occurs 0.00006 percent" of the time and has been found to have any on any election outcome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_impersonation_(United_States) (https://www.brennancenter.org/issue...an-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud)

So the question becomes why disenfranchise any voter over something that has yet to be proven necessary
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that's why everyone should need one to vote.
 
MAGA said:
that is bullshit, we don't know if we have a problem as there is no verification presently going on in several areas of our voting process, democrats have always been the party of dishonesty and low integrity
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You sure are a MAGA. The fact is you show ID when you register to vote. Perhaps you never did that. I have signed potential voters up and sent the forms to the election commission.
The fact is no investigation ever showed it was a problem that people assumed someone's identity to vote. The fact that you are pushing it shows how comfortable you are with cultivating lies to hurt Dem voters. From 200 to 2014 there were 31 cases of voter impersonation. That is .00006 percent. It is not a problem
Integrity? You have no idea what that is.
 
MAGA said:
that is bullshit, we don't know if we have a problem as there is no verification presently going on in several areas of our voting process, democrats have always been the party of dishonesty and low integrity
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Of course, you do not know how elections work, so that makes you an expert. You do not have enough knowledge base to understand. Trot back to Infowars and "learn" more.
Our election system is checked after every election. It is a very clean system with near-zero cheating. I gave you stats on how much voter ID fraud has been found. It is near zero, like your ability to understand is.
 
Nordberg said:
You sure are a MAGA. The fact is you show ID when you register to vote. Perhaps you never did that. I have signed potential voters up and sent the forms to the election commission.
The fact is no investigation ever showed it was a problem that people assumed someone's identity to vote. The fact that you are pushing it shows how comfortable you are with cultivating lies to hurt Dem voters. From 200 to 2014 there were 31 cases of voter impersonation. That is .00006 percent. It is not a problem
Integrity? You have no idea what that is.
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Agreed, although I have not yet seen any evidence anybody has not been able to vote because they could not get an ID.

We should start requiring proof of citizenship when a person registers to vote.
 
Concart said:
Correct for the most part. But eliminating drop boxes, limiting voting hours, and removing polling places in black communities IS voter suppression. And those are only examples. Even more dangerous is allowing a partisan body to overturn an election result. These efforts will fail. A Voting Rights Act will pass, and these laws will be struck down.
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No it isn't. Those are conveniences that are unnecessary to the voting process. Allowing partisan bodies to run the election is dangerous. HR 1, as I've pointed out, is just a massive opportunity to open elections to voter fraud on a mass scale. Have you even read it?
 
Flash said:
Agreed, although I have not yet seen any evidence anybody has not been able to vote because they could not get an ID.

We should start requiring proof of citizenship when a person registers to vote.
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HR 1 and SR 1 nixes both of those ideas.

Sec 1004 Ends a requirement to even show ID to register to vote. You can simply "attest" to who you are when registering.
Sec 1621 Allows for ballot harvesting, internet voting using an e-signature (sec 1101 allows registration to vote that way too), and no voter ID to vote in person or get a mail-in ballot.
Sec 1041 Makes it nearly impossible to remove someone from voter rolls.

So, it passes, we're going to get lots of voter fraud.
 
Concart said:
Correct for the most part. But eliminating drop boxes, limiting voting hours, and removing polling places in black communities IS voter suppression. And those are only examples. Even more dangerous is allowing a partisan body to overturn an election result. These efforts will fail. A Voting Rights Act will pass, and these laws will be struck down.
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there is noting wrong with preventing drop boxes in unsecured locations........preventing any possibility of tampering should be patently obvious to even the dimmest dem......black polling places are chosen by local government election officials who, in black communities, will be elected by the blacks who vote......where does racism come into play?....
 
Concart said:
Correct. Forcing someone to obtain an ID is unnecessary. They can prove residence with many other documents, and those documents ARE required to register and vote. So the entire Voter ID meme is meaningless. There is no significant organized voter fraud. It is a non-existent problem. Completely made up by citing the rare anecdote. Frankly, in most cases, the persons committing this fraud are Republicans.
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this shouldn't be difficult to understand......you produce documents to register to vote.......you produce ID to show the official in charge of the voting booth that you are the person who registered......there can only be one reason to object to that.....if you want someone besides the person who registered to cast the vote.....how can you claim it significant that no one has ever been caught doing it in states which do not check to see if anyone is doing it.....
 
Nordberg said:
Of course, you do not know how elections work, so that makes you an expert. You do not have enough knowledge base to understand. Trot back to Infowars and "learn" more.
Our election system is checked after every election. It is a very clean system with near-zero cheating. I gave you stats on how much voter ID fraud has been found. It is near zero, like your ability to understand is.
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That is a lie, mail in voting is probably mostly honest but no one actually knows the registered voter marks that ballot and sends it back in. As we saw in Wisconsin and Minnesota this past election, mail ballots were hand delivered after the originals had be marked incorrectly.
 
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