Warrantless Wiretapping

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Cypress

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Can we agree that Iraq, civil liberties, warrantless wiretapping, free speech "zones", possible war with Iran, are BY FAR the most important issues facing our nation, with direct consequences for our democracy, and indeed our very freedoms? That these issues FAR outweigh school curriculum in venzeuala, pit bulls, lawn watering, or even my silly posts on Mandela?

This is basic, fundamental stuff. The very canvas on which alleged american values and constitutional principles are painted. I really hope the Dems don't wimp out on this, and if I were a praying man, I'd pray that some moderate republicans come to their senses:


NY Times

In a rush just before the August recess, Congress passed a law, effective for only six months, that the administration had argued was needed because its ability to conduct effective surveillance was slipping. That measure allowed the government to eavesdrop, without court-approved warrants, on international communications between an American and someone overseas, as long as the foreigner is the target of the surveillance.

Democratic leaders in Congress have vowed to try this fall to revamp the temporary measure, which critics say gives too much power to President Bush and the intelligence court.

Mr. McConnell argued on Tuesday that the expanded surveillance powers granted under the temporary measure should be made permanent.

He also pushed for a provision that would grant legal immunity to the telecommunications companies that secretly cooperated with the N.S.A. on the warrantless program. Those companies, now facing lawsuits, have never been officially identified.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/w...1190233438-aI8uHA9d6d7Vs2EQ3DtJ/g&oref=slogin
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You keep bringing up Venezelua's education system. If you only want to discuss Iraq, Iran, and wiretapping that's fine with me. At some point you are just rehashing the same things with the same people. I am well aware of your stance on Iraq and Iran.

My mind, however, is capable of caring about more than one issue. If stretching your brain cells between those three discussions is wearing you thin, feel free to sit out our debates. But they are issues, and not discussing them doesn't make them any less relevant.

Why does the public always feel that there is one issue that must be discussed to the exclusion of everything else?
 
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