What if....
- Thread starter LichGold
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Stardust.
Yakuda
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Nothing. There's a cabinet directly above it but in there is different bottles of scotch
In short "spirits" are on top of your fridge.
Yakuda
Verified User
I suppose so but technically the "spirits" are above my fridge not on top of it
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Shot. Repeatedly.
My bad.
LichGold
Verified User
Something nice on top of your fridge or maybe a little itchy in your trigger finger?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No. In Arizona, breaking into someone's home is enough reason to shoot that person if you want. The state won't even begin to try and prosecute that. After all, unlike virtually every other state, the burden of proof that it wasn't excessive or necessary is totally on the state. In addition, Arizona is a castle and stand your ground state.
Shootings like that happen a couple of times a year here. B&E a house with someone home in it is just asking to be shot in Arizona. That's why there aren't a lot of B&E crimes on occupied residences here. Criminals know, Forget the dog! Beware of the owner!
Alleged home intruder released from hospital after being shot; charged with trespassing and assault
The alleged intruder, identified as 33-year-old Alecsandra Sarzoza, has been released from the hospital and is facing charges of trespassing and assault.
www.12news.com
Woman shoots alleged intruder to death near Tucson
A man was trying to break in to her home and ignored a warning shot before she fired again and struck him, the woman told the Pima County Sheriff's Department.
tucson.com
Woman, 85, shoots and kills home intruder in ‘heroic’ act of self-defense
A woman is being praised for her actions as she fought off an armed man during a home invasion.
www.azfamily.com
You try that breaking and entering shit in Arizona and somebody's home, you're likely getting toe tagged at the morgue next.
LichGold
Verified User
No. In Arizona, breaking into someone's home is enough reason to shoot that person if you want. The state won't even begin to try and prosecute that. After all, unlike virtually every other state, the burden of proof that it wasn't excessive or necessary is totally on the state. In addition, Arizona is a castle and stand your ground state.
Shootings like that happen a couple of times a year here. B&E a house with someone home in it is just asking to be shot in Arizona. That's why there aren't a lot of B&E crimes on occupied residences here. Criminals know, Forget the dog! Beware of the owner!
Alleged home intruder released from hospital after being shot; charged with trespassing and assault
The alleged intruder, identified as 33-year-old Alecsandra Sarzoza, has been released from the hospital and is facing charges of trespassing and assault.
Woman shoots alleged intruder to death near Tucson
A man was trying to break in to her home and ignored a warning shot before she fired again and struck him, the woman told the Pima County Sheriff's Department.
Woman, 85, shoots and kills home intruder in ‘heroic’ act of self-defense
A woman is being praised for her actions as she fought off an armed man during a home invasion.
You try that breaking and entering shit in Arizona and somebody's home, you're likely getting toe tagged at the morgue next.
I understand that. But aren't ya a little murder lusty? Even a little? What's more pleasant than a perfectly valid excuse, right?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
No, I'm a realist. B&E my house, I'm going to shoot--REPEATEDLY-- you and I won't fucking hesitate for a nanosecond. In Arizona all the police will do is tell you 'Nice grouping there! What'd you use?'
What happens if someone cuts you off in traffic?
LichGold
Verified User
Okay, but you should think about it. There's always a slime bag somewhere that loves a puke-monkey and they don't give a damn what puke-monkey did or how justified it was that you shot them.
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T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
Not in Arizona. Here it's damn near impossible to sue or charge someone for shooting someone who broke into your home.
Into the Night
Verified User
Stale bread.
Into the Night
Verified User
No, it isn't! I suggest you seriously review self defense laws in Arizona before you make a BAD decision!
Into the Night
Verified User
It's not a valid excuse. He would be tried for manslaughter. Theft is NOT a valid reason to shoot someone, even in your home in Arizona.
Only if the intruder was armed or was attempting to attack someone can you claim Castle Doctrine self defense in Arizona.
Into the Night
Verified User
No, you're murder lusty.
Nope. They very well could arrest you and charge you with murder or manslaughter.
Into the Night
Verified User
It's actually quite easy. If the victim survives, he could file a civil suit. If not, his relatives could file a civil suit. It's as simple as filing with the court and serving you notice.
Civil suits are INDEPENDENT of any criminal proceeding. In Arizona, you can be prosecuted for murder or manslaughter for shooting an unarmed thief in your home.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
They could. But in AZ they'd have to not have been criminally charged in the case. The second they are, their case is pretty much finished here.
For B&E it's like this:
State law affords certain self-defense protections under what's referred to as the "castle doctrine," meaning the legal occupants of a home or vehicle can legally defend themselves against an intruder if they believe to be in some amount of danger...
It also puts the burden on prosecutors to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a defendant was not justified in using deadly force in self-defense.
This means if someone breaks into your home (a violent act in itself) and you shoot them, the state, not you, THE STATE, must prove it wasn't justified. I need say nothing to defend my actions. The state has to prove them wrong. That's a very high bar to hurdle particularly when the person shot forced their way into your home.
At the same time, to succeed in a civil case, said shot person would have to prove their actions were not criminal followed by trying to prove the shooter's actions weren't legal. If the state can't do that, it's damn near impossible the person shot can even with a pack of liars... err, lawyers.
On the other hand counter suing the B&E person for damages to your home is almost certain to succeed. That means their even finding a lawyer that doesn't want a pile of cash up front will be difficult to do.
I posted a number of these recent cases from Arizona and the perp in every one of them where they survived ended up being convicted of various felonies and couldn't sue the shooter.