What is socialism?

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What is socialism?




Well, dictionary.com says,




socialism

. [soh-shuh-liz-uh?m]

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noun

. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.




Well then that means that a “democratic government” being the representation of the “community,” or even a “dictatorship government” claiming to be the representative of the community as a whole is actually a “socialist” operation. In short, socialism by definition is “government” and government by definition is “socialism.”




Government “owns” the “means”, makes the laws, that “control” the “means” of “production” and “distribution.” Break the government’s laws regarding the means of production and you’ll very soon find out who “OWNS” the means of production, right? Examples: Pot, gambling, business and corporation regulations, “HEALTHCARE.”






OK, now that we’ve proven what socialism is, where does capitalism fit in?

You've just made the same mistakes I think a lot of people make, you've confused type of government with ideology and bought into the argument being made today that you can be a little bit pregnant by being both "socialist" and capitalist. I understand the point you're trying to make about government control being necessary in order to implement socialism but look at the hoops you had to jump through just to get there: your own definition, the one you went out of your way to supply, doesn't anywhere refer to socialism as a form of government...because it's not. If your argument were that simple to make you would have posted a definition calling socialism a form of government.

The other problem with this is that as far as America is concerned the prominent "socialists" in the news today refer to themselves as Democratic Socialists and that kind of socialism has very little to do with, in fact practically nothing, a strong government. Your definition actually got it right, it's a social system. IOW, for those people owning the government is far less important than owning the schools and the media for a few generations because their type of change doesn't come at the ballot box, it happens gradually.

Thank you!