What should we make of the accidental president?

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Tranquillus in Exile

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First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.

Otoh, I would be quite surprised if he knowingly colluded with Russian agents in 2016 - only because, if I were running an operation to subvert the election, I sure as hell wouldn't confide in him.

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House. Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.

For the record, I'm not a "lefty" except from a RWNJ perspective, and I don't have a "syndrome". I have voted for moderate conservatives more than once, but Trump is something else.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.

Otoh, I would be quite surprised if he knowingly colluded with Russian agents in 2016 - only because, if I were running an operation to subvert the election, I sure as hell wouldn't confide in him.

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House. Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.

For the record, I'm not a "lefty" except from a RWNJ perspective, and I don't have a "syndrome". I have voted for moderate conservatives more than once, but Trump is something else.
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I agree with you and I don't think Putin confides in Trump or tells him what to do.. He doesn't have to.. Trump is cowed by Putin.. Look at how he lashes out at everybody and everything, but NEVER a word about Putin.
 
stoned said:
I say let's make him the ex president.
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This poem written by Wm Butler Yeats was written after WW!.

Here's part of it. The Second Coming...

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Evangelicals 'Mostly Sure' Trump Not the Antichrist, Poll Finds

https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-mostly-sure-trump-not-the-antichrist-poll-finds.html

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LOLOL

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Barnum/Bailey Group President David Bourne Everday, who helped oversee the poll, noted that respondents who labeled themselves Trump supporters were more likely to answer "mostly sure."

"About two-thirds of evangelicals in our study who identified themselves as Trump supporters stated that they were 'mostly sure' that he was not the Antichrist," said Everday.

"We found that 2 percent of Trump supporters in our poll were 'totally sure,' making them the only respondents in the entire poll to answer with that response."

Data for the survey was gathered via email and telephone calls from February 30-31, with a sample space of some 3,000 evangelicals, approximately 2,600 of whom were registered voters.

The "evangelical" category was further broken down into the subcategories of "Non-Denominational," "Southern Baptist," "Presbyterian," "Methodist," "Emergent," "Divergent," "Insurgent," "Allegiant" and "Hand-Raisers."

Of those categories, respondents who identified themselves as "Southern Baptist" were the surest that Trump was not in fact the Antichrist, with 78 percent saying they were "mostly sure."

SBC Spokesman Shout Newpork believes that the reason for this assurance was most likely due to Trump missing some of the key attributes of the infamous figure.

"Well first and foremost," began Newpork, "if Donald Trump were the Antichrist, he would know his Bible WAAAAYYYY better than that. I mean, 'Two Corinthians'? Are you serious, bro?"

Over the past several months, Trump has become a lightning rod for controversy as well as the front-runner for the Republican nomination.

His charismatic speaking (as in "compelling," not "in tongues") and seemingly unnatural popularity has led some to ponder that Trump's rise was foretold in the Book of Revelation.

"What a bunch of rubbish!" stated Robert Jeffress, senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas and a rumored vice presidential pick for Trump.

"First of all, everyone knows that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Antichrist. And second of all, all this bashing of Donald is just liberal hypocrisy. Pure and simple."

Jeffress later clarified that Clinton was not actually the Antichrist, but rather if elected would simply lead to the eventual rise of the Antichrist, who is very definitely Elizabeth Warren.

Others were not as confident. Hiding in his bunker at an undisclosed location, Max Lucado explained that the signs were too plausible to ignore.

"I am not saying with certainty that a President Trump would establish a one-world-government and lead large armies against the Elect," Lucado noted, as he ordered more buckets of food from Jim Bakker.

"I am just saying that it never hurts to be careful. Especially if you are someone who has ever uttered an unkind or critical word about Trump, as I have."

A small group of respondents were okay with Trump being the Antichrist.

In the comments, one respondent asserted: "Sure, he could be the Antichrist, but he'll shake up Washington, which is just what this country needs."

Another respondent wrote: "C'mon. All Trump is saying is that he'll give us the kingdoms of this world if we simply bow to him. Does that sound like Satan to you?"
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.

Otoh, I would be quite surprised if he knowingly colluded with Russian agents in 2016 - only because, if I were running an operation to subvert the election, I sure as hell wouldn't confide in him.

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House. Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.

For the record, I'm not a "lefty" except from a RWNJ perspective, and I don't have a "syndrome". I have voted for moderate conservatives more than once, but Trump is something else.
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"Accidental" suggests that no one is at fault.

There is little difference between a syndrome and an obsession when it comes to Trump.

Happy holidays.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.

Otoh, I would be quite surprised if he knowingly colluded with Russian agents in 2016 - only because, if I were running an operation to subvert the election, I sure as hell wouldn't confide in him.

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House. Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.

For the record, I'm not a "lefty" except from a RWNJ perspective, and I don't have a "syndrome". I have voted for moderate conservatives more than once, but Trump is something else.
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Khashoggi soup?
 
Controlled Opposition said:
"Accidental" suggests that no one is at fault.

There is little difference between a syndrome and an obsession when it comes to Trump.

Happy holidays.
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Happy holidays, C.O. and all.

You think he was put there by some kind of conspiracy? I can almost believe it. It certainly wasn't a majority of the people. Whoever it was, they did a good job of effing up America.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.
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"His record", such as?

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House.
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An "ignoramus" because?

Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.
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"Some Republicans" such as? Name names and tell us what they see?
 
kudzu said:
LOLOL

Excerpt:

Barnum/Bailey Group President David Bourne Everday, who helped oversee the poll, noted that respondents who labeled themselves Trump supporters were more likely to answer "mostly sure."

"About two-thirds of evangelicals in our study who identified themselves as Trump supporters stated that they were 'mostly sure' that he was not the Antichrist," said Everday.

"We found that 2 percent of Trump supporters in our poll were 'totally sure,' making them the only respondents in the entire poll to answer with that response."

Data for the survey was gathered via email and telephone calls from February 30-31, with a sample space of some 3,000 evangelicals, approximately 2,600 of whom were registered voters.

The "evangelical" category was further broken down into the subcategories of "Non-Denominational," "Southern Baptist," "Presbyterian," "Methodist," "Emergent," "Divergent," "Insurgent," "Allegiant" and "Hand-Raisers."

Of those categories, respondents who identified themselves as "Southern Baptist" were the surest that Trump was not in fact the Antichrist, with 78 percent saying they were "mostly sure."

SBC Spokesman Shout Newpork believes that the reason for this assurance was most likely due to Trump missing some of the key attributes of the infamous figure.

"Well first and foremost," began Newpork, "if Donald Trump were the Antichrist, he would know his Bible WAAAAYYYY better than that. I mean, 'Two Corinthians'? Are you serious, bro?"

Over the past several months, Trump has become a lightning rod for controversy as well as the front-runner for the Republican nomination.

His charismatic speaking (as in "compelling," not "in tongues") and seemingly unnatural popularity has led some to ponder that Trump's rise was foretold in the Book of Revelation.

"What a bunch of rubbish!" stated Robert Jeffress, senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas and a rumored vice presidential pick for Trump.

"First of all, everyone knows that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the Antichrist. And second of all, all this bashing of Donald is just liberal hypocrisy. Pure and simple."

Jeffress later clarified that Clinton was not actually the Antichrist, but rather if elected would simply lead to the eventual rise of the Antichrist, who is very definitely Elizabeth Warren.

Others were not as confident. Hiding in his bunker at an undisclosed location, Max Lucado explained that the signs were too plausible to ignore.

"I am not saying with certainty that a President Trump would establish a one-world-government and lead large armies against the Elect," Lucado noted, as he ordered more buckets of food from Jim Bakker.

"I am just saying that it never hurts to be careful. Especially if you are someone who has ever uttered an unkind or critical word about Trump, as I have."

A small group of respondents were okay with Trump being the Antichrist.

In the comments, one respondent asserted: "Sure, he could be the Antichrist, but he'll shake up Washington, which is just what this country needs."

Another respondent wrote: "C'mon. All Trump is saying is that he'll give us the kingdoms of this world if we simply bow to him. Does that sound like Satan to you?"
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Jeffress is clearly deep in TDS. Most evangelicals were hoping that Trump would turn out to be the antichrist.

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Tranquillus in Exile said:
First, I don't understand how anyone can trust him an inch. I deplore what I see of his character, his instincts, and his record long before as well as during his presidency. If he hasn't acted criminally at some point - believing it his right to do so - it would be a miracle.

Otoh, I would be quite surprised if he knowingly colluded with Russian agents in 2016 - only because, if I were running an operation to subvert the election, I sure as hell wouldn't confide in him.

An ignoramus who thinks he's a genius is the most dangerous thing to have in the White House. Some Republicans can see that, but they are gambling that he can be kept under control even now. I hope they are right and he doesn't do too much damage before we see the back of him.

For the record, I'm not a "lefty" except from a RWNJ perspective, and I don't have a "syndrome". I have voted for moderate conservatives more than once, but Trump is something else.
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He's still not Hillary. Beyond that , who cares. It isn't like he is focused enough to do much harm.
 
Putin handles Trump like he has the pee tape. Trumpis 2 years into his 4 . He needs about 7 administration spots filled. He has had several who left while being chased by the cops. Many economists predict a recession is coming. The market is tanking and the fucking government is shut down. Exactly how bad does it have to get before rightys see what they have done.
 
Robo said:
"His record", such as?
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Where to start? The Trump "university" scam alone would have been enough to stop any presidential contender who didn't have a blind cult following. Of course it wasn't actually criminal, his fancy lawyers saw to that. So that's okay, right?


An "ignoramus" because?
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Some of Trump's insights into just one subject area, US history:


“Most people don’t even know Lincoln was a Republican.”

Who knew?

“Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job.”

Amazing, considering he's been dead since 1895.

“People don’t ask that question, but why was there the Civil War?”

Nobody thought of that!

"Andrew Jackson was really angry when he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War."

Angry? He was livid when his slaves were emancipated in 1864, two decades after his death.


Trump is the sort of person who is too ignorant to know how ignorant he is. THAT'S the problem.


"Some Republicans" such as?
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Wait and see what the GOP worthies say when he goes down the tubes:

"I could always see what he was!"
"I was just biding my time!"
"McCain was right all along!"
etc, etc.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Where to start? The Trump "university" scam alone would have been enough to stop any presidential contender who didn't have a blind cult following. Of course it wasn't actually criminal, his fancy lawyers saw to that. So that's okay, right?
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Actually some lawyers and judges not blinded by pure hatred have said that Trump could have won the Trump University case if just one student claimed he/she found value in it and there were several. Of course you can always claim they were paid by Cohen to say that. Of course documents proving that would take years to surface, huh?






Some of Trump's insights into just one subject area, US history:


“Most people don’t even know Lincoln was a Republican.”

Who knew?

“Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job.”

Amazing, considering he's been dead since 1895.

“People don’t ask that question, but why was there the Civil War?”

Nobody thought of that!

"Andrew Jackson was really angry when he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War."

Angry? He was livid when his slaves were emancipated in 1864, two decades after his death.


Trump is the sort of person who is too ignorant to know how ignorant he is. THAT'S the problem.




Wait and see what the GOP worthies say when he goes down the tubes:

"I could always see what he was!"
"I was just biding my time!"
"McCain was right all along!"
etc, etc.
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You have links for all of those quotes, right?

How many other ignoramuses do you know who've become billionaires? How did that happen with Trump?

So Trump is the first President that says stupid shit, right? Didn't Obama claim he campaigned in all 54 states or something like that?

How about some evidence that's really worthy of the title "Ignoramus" like some actions Trump has performed that only an ignoramus would do? Got any of that?
 
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