What would our forefathers do if...

Probably, but if there were an epidemic of gun violence in schools how would they solve it? Keep in mind they only had muskets back then so only one person is usually killed and maybe another injured in these hypothetical senario
 
DBCooper said:
...kids were going to the school houses and shooting the place up.

Be Serious.
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They would find and bring the kids shooting up the schools to justice, considering that schools at that time were usually privately run they would likely have a parent or two hang out at the schoolhouse with a gun to ensure the safety of the kids.

Let's think about the time where the schoolhouses were endangered by native populations who didn't want them there. They kept them safe by hardening the target and/or legalizing hunting of those "enemy" native populations. (See Enoch Brown School Massacre).
 
DBCooper said:
Probably, but if there were an epidemic of gun violence in schools how would they solve it? Keep in mind they only had muskets back then so only one person is usually killed and maybe another injured in these hypothetical senario
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Well, when the indigenous ppl attacked a village, they were generally massacred later by armed citizens or soldiers.

But if the attack was done by one of their own, they'd try and hang him. Like you said, not likely to have a massacre with a musket though. When the 2nd amendment was penned, today's armaments couldn't even be imagined, much less imagined in the hands of ppl who have little to no formal training or experience with them.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
But if the attack was done by one of their own, they'd try and hang him. Like you said, not likely to have a massacre with a musket though. When the 2nd amendment was penned, today's armaments couldn't even be imagined, much less imagined in the hands of ppl who have little to no formal training or experience with them.
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I agree with you completely. Do you think our forefathers would try to ban all guns? Would they enact some kind of gun control to curb the problem? What would they do?
 
DBCooper said:
I agree with you completely. Do you think our forefathers would try to ban all guns? Would they enact some kind of gun control to curb the problem? What would they do?
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I don't think that they would ban guns. I see them doing something like many European countries do.... allow guns used for sports and for hunting, license the users, and require safety and competence exams to continue to own them. In fact, I suspect strongly that is what is behind the "well-regulated militia" phrase. They did not want a standing army. They *did* want citizens to be able to keep and bear arms and to form their own protective local groups in lieu of said army. The reasoning: 1) Armies cost money, and 2) (and probably most important to them) armies can be co-opted and used against the citizenry.
 
DBCooper said:
I agree with you completely. Do you think our forefathers would try to ban all guns? Would they enact some kind of gun control to curb the problem? What would they do?
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At the time of the fore father's a school attacker could do more harm with a sword than a slow loading musket!
 
One room school houses and muskets. It would be way different. Could not happen. That is why they did not have weapon bans. They did not know how lethal they would get. The founders were smart enough that they would not allow this carnage to continue.
 
Nordberg said:
One room school houses and muskets. It would be way different. Could not happen. That is why they did not have weapon bans. They did not know how lethal they would get. The founders were smart enough that they would not allow this carnage to continue.
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Excellent post.The founding fathers would be embarrassed if they saw the carnival carny,that the people elected.They would rethink Socrates views on democracy.
 
Nordberg said:
One room school houses and muskets. It would be way different. Could not happen. That is why they did not have weapon bans. They did not know how lethal they would get. The founders were smart enough that they would not allow this carnage to continue.
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So a blunderbuss wouldn't kill very many, at one time?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Well, when the indigenous ppl attacked a village, they were generally massacred later by armed citizens or soldiers.

But if the attack was done by one of their own, they'd try and hang him. Like you said, not likely to have a massacre with a musket though. When the 2nd amendment was penned, today's armaments couldn't even be imagined, much less imagined in the hands of ppl who have little to no formal training or experience with them.
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They absolutely could and did imagine it. They weren't idiots, especially since more than a few of them had trained with European militaries.
 
It is my personal belief that if our forefathers were here today, they would ban weapons which could be used to cause a massacre. I think they would find in 2018 there is simply no need for them. This part of the bill of rights is outdated. A well regulated militia doesn't serve much of a purpose against nuclear weapons or an air force. We the people would surely meet our demise with only guns.
 
DBCooper said:
It is my personal belief that if our forefathers were here today, they would ban weapons which could be used to cause a massacre. I think they would find in 2018 there is simply no need for them. This part of the bill of rights is outdated. A well regulated militia doesn't serve much of a purpose against nuclear weapons or an air force. We the people would surely meet our demise with only guns.
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Our "forefathers" found it important enough for civilians to be armed, that they could own cannons; if you want to talk about something that can cause a massacre. :palm:
 
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