Where Did the Villagers Go?

Damocles

Damocles

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On 29 June, American and Iraqi soldiers were again fighting side-by-side as soldiers from Charley Company 1-12 CAV—led by Captain Clayton Combs—and Iraqi soldiers from the 5th IA, closed in on a village on the outskirts of Baqubah. The village had the apparent misfortune of being located near a main road—about 3.5 miles from FOB Warhorse—that al Qaeda liked to bomb. Al Qaeda had taken over the village. As Iraqi and American soldiers moved in, they came under light contact; but the bombs planted in the roads (and maybe in the houses) were the real threat.

The firefight progressed. American missiles were fired. The enemy might have been trying to bait Iraqi and American soldiers into ambush, but it did not work. The village was riddled with bombs, some of them large enough to destroy a tank. One by one, experts destroyed the bombs, leaving small and large craters in the unpaved roads.

The village was abandoned. All the people were gone. But where?

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Do you think that this might support the premise of those who say that if the US would leave Iraq, the Iraqis themselves would take care of whatever Al Qaeda entered their country after we invaded, as there is no love between the two?
 
Darla said:
Do you think that this might support the premise of those who say that if the US would leave Iraq, the Iraqis themselves would take care of whatever Al Qaeda entered their country after we invaded, as there is no love between the two?
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It would if the IA-5 could logistically support itself.
 
Hey, they are not supposed to be trustworthy. If they are learning, why that would throw all the reasons off for pulling out. It cannot be.
 
I wish we would just come to grips with reality, and stop with the fantasy of training a competent and unified iraqi national army.

Ain't gonna happen. Not this year, not next year, not the year after that. Maybe in 10 or 15 years. Maybe.

The iraqi army has had exactly the same amount of time to train as have the insurgents. If they can't take the insurgents on by now, there's something else we are ignoring: This is a civil war. There will be no unified national army. What army there is, is either going to be controlled rival militias and rival government ministries, or they're going to be insurgent infiltrators, or there going to be some poor iraqi looking for a paycheck, but not willing to put his neck on the line and be viewed as an american collaborator.
 
Darla said:
I see.

Well, I think they can kick a few Qaeda out without more time. Frankly, I think they'll be roundly executed after we leave, even if that were to be tomorrow.
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bingo.

No love lost between the foreign jihaddists, and the iraqi nationalists or the shia militias.

Once we're out of the crossfire, the shia and the sunni nationalists will execute and behead foreign arab fighters who have gleefully been bombing iraqi civilians and mosques.


Our presence just delays that inevitability.
 
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