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disobey

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I did another thread where I spoke of the suckers that died at Pearl Harbor. But here's an even greater example of being a sucker. Being White and fighting a war to help eradicate other White people! Well that is what happened. First of all, Russian communists are said to have been responsible for the greatest genocide in human history! 80 to 100 million people met untimely deaths at their hands. It's hard to say how many tens of millions of them were White. But who did we back in WW II? Stalin.

Also, after both Germany and Russia defeated Poland, both sides took many prisoners of war. The Russians executed around 22,000 of theirs in the Katyn massacre. The Germans never did that crap. Also, after WW II, up to 11 million Germans were killed. Part of that was from the death camps that were set up to imprison German prisoners of ex-war. They were called Rheinwiesenlager camps. Or Rhine Meadows camps. Where around 1.7 million Germans were basically murdered. Part of the reason I think why is because "dead men tell no tales." Though nobody seems to like the websites I give links to prove my point, I will post some anyway. Who knows, maybe it can convince some White people to question being scum.

https://prepareforchange.net/2019/07/22/11-million-germans-were-murdered-after-wwii/

http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2017/01/eisenhowers-death-camps.html

https://rense.com/general46/germ.htm

https://birthofanewearthblog.com/th...ke-the-kike-eisenhower-and-his-jewish-allies/
 
This is a post I did on another board that is dedicated to WW 2 history:

Let me start by mentioning that there are a few recurring conspiracy theory authors on what they call "Eisenhower's Holocaust" out there that claim the US allowed tens of thousands to over a million German POW's to die towards and right after the end of the war.

These include:

Jeff Rense Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans (rense.com)
James Bacque He's the originator of much of this conspiracy theory

The above two authors produce mostly tripe. Virtually all of their work reads like fiction the author made up. If you read actual German POW accounts, like William B. Folkestad's Panzerjäger: Tank Hunter, the last two chapters are his experience at the end of the war becoming a POW. It reads entirely different from the crap on the webpage.
The first thing that stands out is Folkestad focuses on food as the POW's priority. He tells how he was assigned to a supply depot where he drove a forklift, then was assigned to drive a truck (a "duce and a half" from the description). He says they were put in tents, and got food even if he'd often have liked much more.

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That's what the more permanent camps in the COMZ (Zone of Communications) or the rear areas away from the front looked like. Temporary pens near the front were more like this:

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These were temporary holding areas, and the POWs were marched towards the COMZ in stages. In 1945 there were so many that it took quite a while to move them into more permanent camps. Because of the sheer number of prisoners taken, the camps used 10- and 20-man tents and usually housed double that number of POW's. They were given blankets and straw initially. Later bunks were issued.

There was a serious attempt by the US to keep disease down and proper latrines dug, cooking and washing facilities made, delousing with DDT was common.

If anything, the French--who also ran camps in their sectors--were the most brutal to the Germans. They had an axe to grind. The British handed over a large number of their POWs in Germany to the Russians on the latter's request. This usually ended very badly for those POW's.

This is one of a series of photos of one of the only formal surrenders of an entire German unit in early 1945, a few months before the end of the war.

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This was S. PzJr Abt. 512 commanded by Hamptmann (Captain) Albert Ernst, at Iserlohn Germany in the Ruhr. A surrender was negotiated, and the unit drove their vehicles into the town square where the troops paraded and stacked their arms in an orderly fashion before being marched off to a POW camp.

Some of the most bullshit lines in that fiction include:

No one has eaten any food for weeks, and they are slowly starving and dying. But, they can't do this to us!

No food for weeks? Yea, sure... POW's got rations, spotty in the temporary holding camps near the front, but regularly once in the COMZ. In fact, the US once the war ended issued the food in bulk to the Germans who organized their own cooks and were issued mess gear and a field kitchen per so many men. Camps were organized into smaller groups within the whole camp and each area got its own mess and latrine facilities.

Many men died of gangrene from frostbite due to deliberate exposure.

Frostbite? The war in Europe ended in May 1945, at the beginning of summer...

Here's some more from Rense and Bacque to peruse if you want to waste your time

One Million German POWs Killed After WWII By US And France
Eisenhower’s Death Camps |
That one is end noted to two sources of questionable reliability at best for the most part.
Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans
A repetition of the Rense version
http://www.renegadetribune.com/proo...ing_wp_cron=1635209756.6406970024108886718750

This all single sources back to Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950

James Bacque's historical works have been widely panned as "worthless" by historians. His research is shoddy, and his conclusions often baseless. He's the sort of conspiracy theorist that conspiracy theorists love to quote.

So, all Rense does is cherry pick a couple of known and discredited conspiracy theorists to make his case--which he does poorly.


Here's more of Rense's insanity on YouTube:


Of course, the real rub is that Rheinwiesenlager is in on the plot too, being the owner of this site:

Rheinwiesenlager: How The US Killed Hundreds Of Thousands In Secret (allthatsinteresting.com)

http://ww2f.com/threads/rheinwiegenslager.77340/#post-884921

Note: I made the post cited, so quoting it verbatim is my prerogative, not a rule 5 violation. The original is linked if you want to peruse it, and I use the same online name there I use here.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
This is a post I did on another board that is dedicated to WW 2 history:

Let me start by mentioning that there are a few recurring conspiracy theory authors on what they call "Eisenhower's Holocaust" out there that claim the US allowed tens of thousands to over a million German POW's to die towards and right after the end of the war.

These include:

Jeff Rense Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans (rense.com)
James Bacque He's the originator of much of this conspiracy theory

The above two authors produce mostly tripe. Virtually all of their work reads like fiction the author made up. If you read actual German POW accounts, like William B. Folkestad's Panzerjäger: Tank Hunter, the last two chapters are his experience at the end of the war becoming a POW. It reads entirely different from the crap on the webpage.
The first thing that stands out is Folkestad focuses on food as the POW's priority. He tells how he was assigned to a supply depot where he drove a forklift, then was assigned to drive a truck (a "duce and a half" from the description). He says they were put in tents, and got food even if he'd often have liked much more.



That's what the more permanent camps in the COMZ (Zone of Communications) or the rear areas away from the front looked like. Temporary pens near the front were more like this:



These were temporary holding areas, and the POWs were marched towards the COMZ in stages. In 1945 there were so many that it took quite a while to move them into more permanent camps. Because of the sheer number of prisoners taken, the camps used 10- and 20-man tents and usually housed double that number of POW's. They were given blankets and straw initially. Later bunks were issued.

There was a serious attempt by the US to keep disease down and proper latrines dug, cooking and washing facilities made, delousing with DDT was common.

If anything, the French--who also ran camps in their sectors--were the most brutal to the Germans. They had an axe to grind. The British handed over a large number of their POWs in Germany to the Russians on the latter's request. This usually ended very badly for those POW's.

This is one of a series of photos of one of the only formal surrenders of an entire German unit in early 1945, a few months before the end of the war.



This was S. PzJr Abt. 512 commanded by Hamptmann (Captain) Albert Ernst, at Iserlohn Germany in the Ruhr. A surrender was negotiated, and the unit drove their vehicles into the town square where the troops paraded and stacked their arms in an orderly fashion before being marched off to a POW camp.

Some of the most bullshit lines in that fiction include:

No one has eaten any food for weeks, and they are slowly starving and dying. But, they can't do this to us!

No food for weeks? Yea, sure... POW's got rations, spotty in the temporary holding camps near the front, but regularly once in the COMZ. In fact, the US once the war ended issued the food in bulk to the Germans who organized their own cooks and were issued mess gear and a field kitchen per so many men. Camps were organized into smaller groups within the whole camp and each area got its own mess and latrine facilities.

Many men died of gangrene from frostbite due to deliberate exposure.

Frostbite? The war in Europe ended in May 1945, at the beginning of summer...

Here's some more from Rense and Bacque to peruse if you want to waste your time

One Million German POWs Killed After WWII By US And France
Eisenhower’s Death Camps |
That one is end noted to two sources of questionable reliability at best for the most part.
Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans
A repetition of the Rense version


This all single sources back to Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950

James Bacque's historical works have been widely panned as "worthless" by historians. His research is shoddy, and his conclusions often baseless. He's the sort of conspiracy theorist that conspiracy theorists love to quote.

So, all Rense does is cherry pick a couple of known and discredited conspiracy theorists to make his case--which he does poorly.


Here's more of Rense's insanity on YouTube:


Of course, the real rub is that Rheinwiesenlager is in on the plot too, being the owner of this site:


Note: I made the post cited, so quoting it verbatim is my prerogative, not a rule 5 violation. The original is linked if you want to peruse it, and I use the same online name there I use here.
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Complete and utter bullshit. History written by the victors. How can you believe such garbage! You mention a book written by James Bacque. From what I have seen, it didn't sound like BS to me. They also mentioned other books along those lines that haven't even been translated into English. By actual Germans. I bet they had a pretty unpleasant tale to tell.

Also, I remember hearing of an ex-SS officer. He spoke of masses of dead jews who were buried in trenches. The bodies were buried under 15 to 20 feet of dirt. That had a bulldozer run over the soil afterwards to compact it. He said that after a certain amount of time the ground bubbled from the decaying bodies buried underneath. But here's the thing. That just couldn't happen! They could have buried dead whales under that much of dirt and that just couldn't happen. But after living through the allies iron fist, it is no surprise that they were able to find Germans who were willing to tell stories that supported the allied version of things.

You don't seem to agree with the websites I gave links to. Well how about listening to an actual American guard from at least one of those camps. HE WAS THERE! You going to call him a liar? Here is the website. Read what he had to say.

https://twelveyearsnotaslave.wordpr...wers-death-campsa-u-s-prison-guard-remembers/
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You don't ignore these morons. You crush them like the bugs they are with real facts. Lucky for this board you have an actual, real, expert, military historian posting here.
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You don't know what you're talking about. And you have the nerve to call yourself an expert? That's a laugh. And I have been crushing bugs like you for quite some time.
 
disobey said:
Complete and utter bullshit. History written by the victors. How can you believe such garbage! You mention a book written by James Bacque. From what I have seen, it didn't sound like BS to me. They also mentioned other books along those lines that haven't even been translated into English. By actual Germans. I bet they had a pretty unpleasant tale to tell.

Also, I remember hearing of an ex-SS officer. He spoke of masses of dead jews who were buried in trenches. The bodies were buried under 15 to 20 feet of dirt. That had a bulldozer run over the soil afterwards to compact it. He said that after a certain amount of time the ground bubbled from the decaying bodies buried underneath. But here's the thing. That just couldn't happen! They could have buried dead whales under that much of dirt and that just couldn't happen. But after living through the allies iron fist, it is no surprise that they were able to find Germans who were willing to tell stories that supported the allied version of things.

You don't seem to agree with the websites I gave links to. Well how about listening to an actual American guard from at least one of those camps. HE WAS THERE! You going to call him a liar? Here is the website. Read what he had to say.

https://twelveyearsnotaslave.wordpr...wers-death-campsa-u-s-prison-guard-remembers/
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So, the best you can do in response is ad hominem and then link a page from the Institute for Historical Review? The IHR is a known Nazi-apologist site that does 'Historical revision' and is run by virulent holocaust deniers like Mark Weber.

The Institute for Historical Review
The focal point of world neo-Nazi propaganda since 1978 has been the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) in California. Its main propaganda organs were the quarterly Journal of Historical Review and the bi-monthly IHR Newsletter. The 29 members of the editorial staff and board came not only from the USA, but also from Germany (Udo Walendy, Wilhelm Stäglich, and Georg Franz Willing), France (Robert Faurisson and Henri Roques), Argentina (W. Beweraggi-Allende), Australia (John Bennet), Spain (Enrique Aynat), Italy (Carlo Mattogno), and Japan (Hideo Miki). The JHR became a tribunal for neo-Nazis around the world. The activities of the Institute, headed by Mark Weber, have been curtailed in recent years by financial problems. Publication of the JHR ceased in 2002, and the Bulletin now appears only in an online edition.
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/holocaust-denial/the-institute-for-historical-review/

IHR maintains close ties to several neo-Nazi and anti-Semitic organizations, including the National Alliance and the Liberty Lobby. IHR continually employs rhetoric consistent with other anti-Semitic hate groups and is widely regarded by mainstream historians and watchdog groups, such as the Anti-Defamation League, as a leading force in the Holocaust denial movement.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/politics/legal-and-political-magazines/institute-historical-review

Or maybe we should peruse the bibliography of the article you linked, In ‘Eisenhower’s Death Camps’:A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers

Here's the original printed on the IHR website:
https://ihr.org/journal/v10p161_Brech.html

All the same suspects are in the bibliography

James Bacque, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950 (Toronto: Little, Brown and Co., 1997)

James Bacque, Other Losses: An investigation into the mass deaths of German prisoners at the hands of the French and Americans after World War II (Toronto: Stoddart, 1989)

Mark Weber, “New Book Details Mass Killings and Brutal Mistreatment of Germans at the End of World War Two” (Summer 2007)

It's the usual who's who of neo-Nazi apologists and Holocaust deniers.

I like your reference to the anecdote with the SS officer. I wonder, where the hell did they find a bulldozer? Bulldozers were as rare as hen's teeth in the Germany military in the WW 2 period.

I don't agree with the websites you listed because they have all been thoroughly discredited, even to include losing lawsuits in some cases. At one point the IHR offered a reward for proof there were gas chambers at Auschwitz. They lost that case in court and were forced to cough up $50,000 to the plaintiff.

Mel Mermelstein Who Survived Auschwitz, Then Sued Holocaust Deniers in Court, Dies at 95
Fed up with the lies and anti-Semitism, a California businessman partnered with a lawyer to prove that the murder of 6 million Jews was established fact
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...-then-sued-holocaust-deniers-court-180970123/
 
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