Whites’ Unease Shadows the Politics of a More Diverse America

[Guno צְבִי]

In 1985, the pollster Stanley Greenberg went to Macomb County, Mich., to figure out how a traditionally Democratic suburban area could have delivered a landslide for Ronald Reagan. Last year, he was back with a similar question: How could voters in a county that turned out twice for Barack Obama have defected in such large numbers that they arguably delivered Michigan to Donald Trump?

The research zeroed in on white Trump voters without a bachelor’s degree who were either Democrats or independents and had voted for Mr. Obama at least once. Focus groups detected the same underlying theme that had motivated the Reagan Democrats more than 30 years before: a view of America as divided between “us” — white, struggling and aggrieved — and a nonwhite “them.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/business/economy/trump-election-ethnic-diverse-whites.html

Going to get more interesting with a greater demographic shift taking place two years after trump

The fear and paranoia will become more pronounced, trump has enabled those type "people".Some will be pushed over the edge and lashing out, shooting innocent people like we have seen in the past few months

Will America have a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, like Mandela had in South Africa , or will it be something else.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Interesting article; thanks for posting it. Herein are the seeds of their destruction:

"To what extent could policy break down the barriers of ethnic hostility and mistrust? A good economy would help. Racial differences rise to the top of voters’ minds when the economy falters, heating up both the competition for jobs and the debate over the use of tax dollars. By contrast, economists suggest, racial attitudes take a back seat in better economic times."

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Interesting article; thanks for posting it. Herein are the seeds of their destruction:

"To what extent could policy break down the barriers of ethnic hostility and mistrust? A good economy would help. Racial differences rise to the top of voters’ minds when the economy falters, heating up both the competition for jobs and the debate over the use of tax dollars. By contrast, economists suggest, racial attitudes take a back seat in better economic times."

Will get interesting as jobs and prices are affected with the tariffs, they will need scapegoats and guess who that will be, thankfully they are losing power

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Will get interesting as jobs and prices are affected with the tariffs, they will need scapegoats and guess who that will be, thankfully they are losing power

Instituting tariffs is never a good idea, and now -- with the economy flourishing -- it's an even worse idea. The marks won't blame Trump though when prices rise and jobs are lost. He'll manipulate them as always into blaming the "others" -- immigrants. Liberals. Muslims. Everyone but him.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Ran across this when looking at the Roseanne thread. You might find it interesting. Michael Moore's thoughts on Trump:

"Trump, though he shows all the signs of being absolutely bonkers, is not insane. He’s the real deal. His racism and hate is real, it’s well thought-out, he’s the true master of manipulation, a brilliant performance artist, and an evil genius. He outsmarted a nation of liberals and Democrats and won the White House by losing the actual vote of the people. He neutered and then destroyed the Grand Old Republican Party. He knows exactly what he is doing."

https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-michael-moore-donald-trump-secret-project-facebook-1202400461/

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Interesting article; thanks for posting it. Herein are the seeds of their destruction:

"To what extent could policy break down the barriers of ethnic hostility and mistrust? A good economy would help. Racial differences rise to the top of voters’ minds when the economy falters, heating up both the competition for jobs and the debate over the use of tax dollars. By contrast, economists suggest, racial attitudes take a back seat in better economic times."

One yuge problem with that - Trump was elected in a good economy.
Maybe you should look at who the dims nominated. The same corrupt establishment candidate that Obama defeated 8 yrs. earlier.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

One yuge problem with that - Trump was elected in a good economy.

Which is improving, at least until the tariffs screw it up. The *perception* of the economy in 2016, however, was that it was poor because Obama. In fact it was doing quite well and improving -- but Trump painted a bleak picture that the marks swallowed whole. That allowed him to play on racial fears and promote nationalism. If things continue as they are now, what then of 2020?

 

[Cancel 2018.1]

Which is improving, at least until the tariffs screw it up. The *perception* of the economy in 2016, however, was that it was poor because Obama.

Because Obama what? Finish your sentence. From my perspective Trump beat the rest of the republican field because he correctly painted the establishment repubs as feckless pussies cow towing to the PC left and he beat hrc for the obvious reason - she was the elitist, corrupt establishment candidate.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Ran across this when looking at the Roseanne thread. You might find it interesting. Michael Moore's thoughts on Trump:

"Trump, though he shows all the signs of being absolutely bonkers, is not insane. He’s the real deal. His racism and hate is real, it’s well thought-out, he’s the true master of manipulation, a brilliant performance artist, and an evil genius. He outsmarted a nation of liberals and Democrats and won the White House by losing the actual vote of the people. He neutered and then destroyed the Grand Old Republican Party. He knows exactly what he is doing."

https://deadline.com/2018/06/roseanne-michael-moore-donald-trump-secret-project-facebook-1202400461/

thanks

 

[cawacko]

Will get interesting as jobs and prices are affected with the tariffs, they will need scapegoats and guess who that will be, thankfully they are losing power

Bernie Sanders shared many of Trump's beliefs on trade. That our trade deals were bad and hurt American workers. Bernie's base supporters were largely white people. So different side of the same coin? White people afraid?

 

[cawacko]

Which is improving, at least until the tariffs screw it up. The *perception* of the economy in 2016, however, was that it was poor because Obama. In fact it was doing quite well and improving -- but Trump painted a bleak picture that the marks swallowed whole. That allowed him to play on racial fears and promote nationalism. If things continue as they are now, what then of 2020?

Bernie said the same thing about the economy. It wasn't strong, it was a weak recovery. And the gains went to the people at the top. And it was a weak recovery that included three rounds of QE. So we had Fed policy on steroids and it still wasn't good.

Those are facts, its not because Obama was black unless that's what Bernie was playing into among his young white voters.