Who believes that we are headed for an armed revolt in this country?

[WinterBorn]

I have seen a lot of people talking about armed revolts and such.

I m curious who here thinks we are actually headed there?

 

[Topspin]

I'm guessing it would consist of mostly gun nuts who think they are in 1775.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

In every age there is an obsessive movement with some utopic view of society that thinks it has some sort of right to govern society, democracy be damned. In the early 20th century it was the socialist anarchists/communists; today it's the libertarian anarchists. I don't think these new ones are going to get much farther than their predecessors.

 

[zappasguitar]

I have seen a lot of people talking about armed revolts and such.

I m curious who here thinks we are actually headed there?

I keep hearing over and over from a certain subset of Americans how we are headed for an armed revolt. The only problem is that's all I EVER hear, a whole lotta TALK.

They talk and talk about how they are gonna kill everyone and let God sort'em out later, but it never seems to get any further than that, does it?

I mean, who are they afraid of? Surely not the "peace & love leftists" that make them so sick? After all, those who want revolt have all the guns and liberals don't like to fight anyway, right?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

armed revolt against who?....if your talking about the liberals in Washington you don't need a revolt....nobody is going to defend them and they don't carry weapons themselves.....you just need to flap a tablecloth at them and they'll scurry back to their nests

 

[apple0154]

I keep hearing over and over from a certain subset of Americans how we are headed for an armed revolt. The only problem is that's all I EVER hear, a whole lotta TALK.

They talk and talk about how they are gonna kill everyone and let God sort'em out later, but it never seems to get any further than that, does it?

I mean, who are they afraid of? Surely not the "peace & love leftists" that make them so sick? After all, those who want revolt have all the guns and liberals don't like to fight anyway, right?

Well said!

I think it's the same guys/gals who advocate sending thousands of our youth overseas to have their bodies blown apart by IEDs (road side bombs). It's the war-mongering, cowardly, arm chair generals who sing the virtues of war and then return to their hovel and their 12" TVs to live out the fantasy of being a war hero.

Nothing that a decent sized fire cracker planted firmly up their backside wouldn't cure.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

y'all think whatever you want. I just know that i'm stocking up on lots of ammo. anyone who thinks that there aren't rougher economic times coming and aren't bothering to prepare might as well just surrender to the government now.

 

[zappasguitar]

armed revolt against who?....if your talking about the liberals in Washington you don't need a revolt....nobody is going to defend them and they don't carry weapons themselves.....you just need to flap a tablecloth at them and they'll scurry back to their nests

If that's TRULY all it takes then what are you waiting for?

You said it...no one is going to defend them...flap that big bad tablecloth at them and see if they scurry.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

y'all think whatever you want. I just know that i'm stocking up on lots of ammo. anyone who thinks that there aren't rougher economic times coming and aren't bothering to prepare might as well just surrender to the government now.

A dead conservative - whoever has beheld such a beautiful site before?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

If that's TRULY all it takes then what are you waiting for?

You said it...no one is going to defend them...flap that big bad tablecloth at them and see if they scurry.

 

[blackascoal]

I have seen a lot of people talking about armed revolts and such.

I m curious who here thinks we are actually headed there?

There is a possibility.

I've witnessed arned revolution up close and personal in the sixities. Ever have a soldier's bayonet stuck in your back? Ever have a soldier's bayonet pierce your brother's skin while you watch with a bayonet in your back?

I have.

What country was I in?

The United States.

Point being that there is a point where people won't take it anymore. My favorite passage in the Declaration .. "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.''

The Framers were brilliant and amazingly honest.

In spite of the bayonets in our backs that a group of teenagers got for laughing at bumbling National Guardsman, revolution was necessary. It was the intelligent thing to do. America likes to pretend that civil rights is synonymous with Dr. King .. but it isn't. It is synonymous with revolution. There is no victory without Malcolm X, without the Black Panthers, without Angela Davis and without the idea, "By any means necessary." Dr. King is much easier for America to celebrate and honor. Give him his own day. I applaud that.

However, when evil becomes unsufferable, passivity becomes evil.

That being said, do I think there is noble or just cause for those who profess armed revolution in the US today? Absolutely not. These are the last vanguards in the old racist, sexist, homophobic America who see the end of their "way of life" coming. Any violence by them will only hasten their demise.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

There is a possibility.

I've witnessed arned revolution up close and personal in the sixities. Ever have a soldier's bayonet stuck in your back? Ever have a soldier's bayonet pierce your brother's skin while you watch with a bayonet in your back?

I have.

What country was I in?

The United States.

Point being that there is a point where people won't take it anymore. My favorite passage in the Declaration .. "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.''

The Framers were brilliant and amazingly honest.

In spite of the bayonets in our backs that a group of teenagers got for laughing at bumbling National Guardsman, revolution was necessary. It was the intelligent thing to do. America likes to pretend that civil rights is synonymous with Dr. King .. but it isn't. It is synonymous with revolution. There is no victory without Malcolm X, without the Black Panthers, without Angela Davis and without the idea, "By any means necessary." Dr. King is much easier for America to celebrate and honor. Give him his own day. I applaud that.

However, when evil becomes unsufferable, passivity becomes evil.

That being said, do I think there is noble or just cause for those who profess armed revolution in the US today? Absolutely not. These are the last vanguards in the old racist, sexist, homophobic America who see the end of their "way of life" coming. Any violence by them will only hasten their demise.

Well said friend, though I had no idea you were as old as you say.

As for a revolt it depends on the time frame you are talking about? During this presidential term? No there will not be an organized event. the next 20 years? I think yes.

 

[DamnYankee]

It will take a blatant act, like cheating more than usual in an election for conservatives to start shooting. Or an assassination of a popular conservative candidate. The most likely scenario though would be the Democrats passing Health Care or Cap And Trade and several states nullifying the new Act and the feds trying to enforce it on them. Once it starts it will end quickly because the liberals don't have guns and most law enforcement and military aren't exactly beholden to Democrats. Like STY, I too am stocking up on ammo, and based on the prices lately I'd say that is very common.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

It will take a blatant act, like cheating more than usual in an election for conservatives to start shooting. Or an assassination of a popular conservative candidate. The most likely scenario though would be the Democrats passing Health Care or Cap And Trade and several states nullifying the new Act and the feds trying to enforce it on them. Once it starts it will end quickly because the liberals don't have guns and most law enforcement and military aren't exactly beholden to Democrats. Like STY, I too am stocking up on ammo, and based on the prices lately I'd say that is very common.

States don't have the right to nullify federal acts. Since the federal government enforces it's own laws, the only way you could "nullify" it would be to deliberately send out state agents to prevent federal officers from doing their duty, which would obviously be provocative and result in a much quicker replay of the civil war. The states would be violating the constitution and would deserve a reprimand. Liberals don't need guns; we've got the military, and they are sworn to protect the constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic, like conservatives. IMHO conservative counter-revolutionaries should be shown no mercy. Every person on Republican registration roles in terrorist-controlled areas should be hunted down and shot without trial. Only then will justice be done.

 

[DamnYankee]

States don't have the right to nullify federal acts. ....

US Constitution, Amendment X:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively,
or to the people.

Since Health Care and Cap and Trade aren't enumerated powers, the Feds don't have the Constitutional authority to require states to comply. Force it on them and many will nullify these most egregious usurpations of the nations highest law.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Liberals don't need guns; we've got the military, and they are sworn to protect the constitution from enemies, foreign and domestic, like conservatives.

The military is very conservatively based #1 and #2 many members of the military would actively join said revolts. Plus the whole 'Defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' is meant to hold the GOVERNMENT as the domestic enemy.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

The military is very conservatively based #1 and #2 many members of the military would actively join said revolts. Plus the whole 'Defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' is meant to hold the GOVERNMENT as the domestic enemy.

Counterrevolutionary state governments who are violating the constitution. Traitors/terrorists like you and SM would be slaughtered - the justice would be immeasurable. It would be the greatest day in America's history. God bless America, and all patriots in this land, and damn terrorist traitor conservatives to hell.

 

[Minister of Truth]

I'm guessing it would consist of mostly gun nuts who think they are in 1775.

Someone admits their principles don't live up to those of 1775. LOL

That said, I think its all talk, and there is not going to be an armed revolt anytime soon. Personally, I don't think there will ever be one in this country, but that's just me...

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

US Constitution, Amendment X:


Since Health Care and Cap and Trade aren't enumerated powers, the Feds don't have the Constitutional authority to require states to comply. Force it on them and many will nullify these most egregious usurpations of the nations highest law.

Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States."


Article I, Section 8, Clause 3:
“ [The Congress shall have power] To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes; ”


Relevant portions bold to highlight to the terrorist SM why his terrorist views are incorrect.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Counterrevolutionary state governments who are violating the constitution. Traitors/terrorists like you and SM would be slaughtered - the justice would be immeasurable. It would be the greatest day in America's history. God bless America, and all patriots in this land, and damn terrorist traitor conservatives to hell.

WM, are you calling MY PATRIOTISM into question? Further you blatantly IGNORED all of what I said. The military would be unable to wage such a war against the American people.