GoodGameAllin
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White is a color not a race or ethnicity. Nobody is white. Being white is not a real thing.
Who is white?
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Caucasian.
"The Caucasian race is a grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon, which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa. Wikipedia"
"The Caucasian race is a grouping of human beings historically regarded as a biological taxon, which, depending on which of the historical race classifications is used, has usually included ancient and modern populations from Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa. Wikipedia"
Dachshynddawg
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White people have white skin, unless they have been sunbathing a lot and acquire a deep brown "tan".
Usually when someone identifies as white in America, they are saying that their forebears over the past 500 years or so were people who were based in Western Europe. If you are a native White American, basically you had ancestors who lived in England (which is -despite BREXIT !- a far Western European country it's just not physically on the European continent).
So where did the English race (please don't tell me that race is not a scientific concept - I know that. OK ?) You have to go back about 5,000 years to a part of the world called the Pontic-Caspian steppe (a wide grassland which was/is just to the north of the Caucasus Mountains) the people who lived there spoke a language called Indo-European, but the term Indo-European is now also accepted as identifying a culture. Anyway, I think it was around 4,000 years ago that some of these Indo-Europeans ( a group called the Yamnaya) began a Westward migration into "Old Europe". The migrants had learned to domesticate horses and had discovered to wheel, so they could build wagons to transport their goods as they moved Westward. They had noticeably pale skin, apparently, I don't mean their skin was as marble = White as a Northern Englishwoman's skin is today, but it was definitely a pale shade. They were extremely patriarchal/patrilineal, they lived in nuclear families (i.e. 1 father, 1 mother and their biological kids), and they were EXTREMELY warlike. In fact they were absolutely ferocious warriors, just like the Germanic Bezerkers and some of the Vikings and did a lot of raiding and killing as they headed West. It was all "Death or Glory" stuff, if you were a young Yamnaya man, the coolest possible thing you could be was a respected warrior who was brave and ruthless in battle.
Dachshund
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That's basically where the story of the white-skinned Western dude starts
Usually when someone identifies as white in America, they are saying that their forebears over the past 500 years or so were people who were based in Western Europe. If you are a native White American, basically you had ancestors who lived in England (which is -despite BREXIT !- a far Western European country it's just not physically on the European continent).
So where did the English race (please don't tell me that race is not a scientific concept - I know that. OK ?) You have to go back about 5,000 years to a part of the world called the Pontic-Caspian steppe (a wide grassland which was/is just to the north of the Caucasus Mountains) the people who lived there spoke a language called Indo-European, but the term Indo-European is now also accepted as identifying a culture. Anyway, I think it was around 4,000 years ago that some of these Indo-Europeans ( a group called the Yamnaya) began a Westward migration into "Old Europe". The migrants had learned to domesticate horses and had discovered to wheel, so they could build wagons to transport their goods as they moved Westward. They had noticeably pale skin, apparently, I don't mean their skin was as marble = White as a Northern Englishwoman's skin is today, but it was definitely a pale shade. They were extremely patriarchal/patrilineal, they lived in nuclear families (i.e. 1 father, 1 mother and their biological kids), and they were EXTREMELY warlike. In fact they were absolutely ferocious warriors, just like the Germanic Bezerkers and some of the Vikings and did a lot of raiding and killing as they headed West. It was all "Death or Glory" stuff, if you were a young Yamnaya man, the coolest possible thing you could be was a respected warrior who was brave and ruthless in battle.
Dachshund
Dachshound
That's basically where the story of the white-skinned Western dude starts
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countryboy
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Yeah, and?
TOP
Retired Teacher
Wait until guno and friends find out. Makes every one of their posts/threads moot....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
Iolo/Penderyn
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Dead people tend towards whiteness, I think, for a while.
More of an ashy gray.
Dachshynddawg
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Doctors can tell when elderly people are dying. I don't mean dying in the next few days or hours but slowly dying. One sign they use to tell if a person has begun naturally dying is the presence of cyanosis in the extremities usually feet, it appears as a morbid, faintly bluish/gray discolouration in the skin.
Dachshund
With that bluish gray discoloration often comes cold(er) to the touch.
Paler (whiter) skin tone can be a sign of anemia, blood infections, or frostbite.
That seems to be the argument of a lot of the left, but if it's true, then no one is black either.
Aren't there a lot scientific elements to race? DNA and skeletal remains can identify race, ethnicity, and other identifying characteristics (hair and eye color).
Dachshynddawg
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Yeah, your right. The objection to the term race is based on technicalities raised by the politically correct left. They're piddling arguents but technically speaking they are correct. Most sensible people know that the Black sub-saharan race is easily distinguishable from the Japanese race and the English race etc,
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Tranquillus in Exile
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They sound like Plains Indians to me, apart from the pale skin.
Btw, how do we know all this about a pre-literate society 4000 years ago?
Anyway, here's where they were a couple thousand years later:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglia_(peninsula)
Dachshynddawg
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From the Archeology Journals.
These people were buried under large mounds of earth and when archaeologists began to excavate them in the 19th century they found commonalities in the way the skeletons were buried (posture/orientation, etc) and the objects that were buried with them (weapons like spears and distinctive styles of pottery, etc in the underlying graves. Then came radiocarbon dating which eventually allowed archaeologists working in the 20th century to get a pretty accurate idea of how old the remains in the graves were. After this came modern -era genetic technology which allowed scientists to take DNA samples (usually by drilling out a small amount of bone dust from a skeleton's leg or arm, and figure out the movements that these ancient people made over time. Its too detailed and complex to spell out in one post, but it's interesting ,(at least I find it is), as I am fascinated by the story of the White Western European race - where it began and how and where it evolved up to the present day). Trying to work it out is like trying to complete a jig-saw puzzle with 10, 000 pieces !
Yes, you're right about the Germanic tribes. The Yamnaya people morphed into the "Corded Ware" or "Battle Axe" culture which pushed up into Scandinavia. This is where the first Germanic tribes came from. (They had whiter skin than the Yamnaya as a result of the diminished UV radiation in the far Northern climes of Sweden and Norway). Eventually a number of these tribes formed: the Jute, the Angles, the Saxons, the Visigoths and so on. In the 5th century AD, the Angles and the Saxons arrived by boat on an section of the Eastern England that is now called East Anglia. They developed a distinct language which is called "Old English" or Anglo-Saxon English. Later in the story in the 9th or tenth century (I think) Vikings (the Norsemen) arrived as well and eventually settled in England (they were reported to have a very pale skin complexion. In the 5th century the Angles and the Saxons arrived by boat on the East Coast of England (at a region the is now called East Anglia). So the native White English today are descended from the Angles, Saxons, Celts and Vikings and Normans and even (to a small extent) the ancient Romans Quite a dog's breakfast (but don't say that to a English dude !)
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StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Anyone with light skin and European ancestry is white. This includes ethnicities of European descent such as Australian and Canadian.
Being white is definitely a real thing because the white experience is a real thing. You could be white and refuse to acknowledge your whiteness, but the rest of society will.