Why Are We At War in Yemen?

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http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...013/august/11/why-are-we-at-war-in-yemen.aspx

Most Americans are probably unaware that over the past two weeks the US has launched at least eight drone attacks in Yemen, in which dozens have been killed. It is the largest US escalation of attacks on Yemen in more than a decade. The US claims that everyone killed was a “suspected militant,” but Yemeni citizens have for a long time been outraged over the number of civilians killed in such strikes. The media has reported that of all those killed in these recent US strikes, only one of the dead was on the terrorist “most wanted” list.


This significant escalation of US attacks on Yemen coincides with Yemeni President Hadi’s meeting with President Obama in Washington earlier this month. Hadi was installed into power with the help of the US government after a 2011 coup against its long-time ruler, President Saleh. It is in his interest to have the US behind him, as his popularity is very low in Yemen and he faces the constant threat of another coup.


In Washington, President Obama praised the cooperation of President Hadi in fighting the Yemen-based al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. This was just before the US Administration announced that a huge unspecified threat was forcing the closure of nearly two dozen embassies in the area, including in Yemen. According to the Administration, the embassy closings were prompted by an NSA-intercepted conference call at which some 20 al-Qaeda leaders discussed attacking the West. Many remain skeptical about this dramatic claim, which was made just as some in Congress were urging greater scrutiny of NSA domestic spying programs.

The US has been involved in Yemen for some time, and the US presence in Yemen is much greater than we are led to believe. As the Wall Street Journal reported last week:


“At the heart of the U.S.-Yemeni cooperation is a joint command center in Yemen, where officials from the two countries evaluate intelligence gathered by America and other allies, such as Saudi Arabia, say U.S. and Yemeni officials. There, they decide when and how to launch missile strikes against the highly secretive list of alleged al Qaeda operatives approved by the White House for targeted killing, these people say.”


Far from solving the problem of extremists in Yemen, however, this US presence in the country seems to be creating more extremism. According to professor Gregory Johnson of Princeton University, an expert on Yemen, the civilian “collateral damage” from US drone strikes on al-Qaeda members actually attracts more al-Qaeda recruits:


“There are strikes that kill civilians. There are strikes that kill women and children. And when you kill people in Yemen, these are people who have families. They have clans. And they have tribes. And what we're seeing is that the United States might target a particular individual because they see him as a member of al-Qaeda. But what's happening on the ground is that he's being defended as a tribesman.”


The US government is clearly at war in Yemen. It is claimed they are fighting al-Qaeda, but the drone strikes are creating as many or more al-Qaeda members as they are eliminating. Resentment over civilian casualties is building up the danger of blowback, which is a legitimate threat to us that is unfortunately largely ignored. Also, the US is sending mixed signals by attacking al-Qaeda in Yemen while supporting al-Qaeda linked rebels fighting in Syria.

This cycle of intervention producing problems that require more intervention to “solve” impoverishes us and makes us more, not less, vulnerable. Can anyone claim this old approach is successful? Has it produced one bit of stability in the region? Does it have one success story? There is an alternative. It is called non-interventionism. We should try it. First step would be pulling out of Yemen.
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...013/august/11/why-are-we-at-war-in-yemen.aspx
 
Obama can murder anyone he wants, where ever he wants.....and he does.

"God complexes" are particularly common in arrogant, educated, and powerful people.
 
We are at war with Yemen because the MIC deemed it so and the American people have don't have the courage to stop them.
 
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arc...013/august/11/why-are-we-at-war-in-yemen.aspx

Most Americans are probably unaware that over the past two weeks the US has launched at least eight drone attacks in Yemen, in which dozens have been killed. It is the largest US escalation of attacks on Yemen in more than a decade. The US claims that everyone killed was a “suspected militant,” but Yemeni citizens have for a long time been outraged over the number of civilians killed in such strikes. The media has reported that of all those killed in these recent US strikes, only one of the dead was on the terrorist “most wanted” list.


This significant escalation of US attacks on Yemen coincides with Yemeni President Hadi’s meeting with President Obama in Washington earlier this month. Hadi was installed into power with the help of the US government after a 2011 coup against its long-time ruler, President Saleh. It is in his interest to have the US behind him, as his popularity is very low in Yemen and he faces the constant threat of another coup.


In Washington, President Obama praised the cooperation of President Hadi in fighting the Yemen-based al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. This was just before the US Administration announced that a huge unspecified threat was forcing the closure of nearly two dozen embassies in the area, including in Yemen. According to the Administration, the embassy closings were prompted by an NSA-intercepted conference call at which some 20 al-Qaeda leaders discussed attacking the West. Many remain skeptical about this dramatic claim, which was made just as some in Congress were urging greater scrutiny of NSA domestic spying programs.

The US has been involved in Yemen for some time, and the US presence in Yemen is much greater than we are led to believe. As the Wall Street Journal reported last week:


“At the heart of the U.S.-Yemeni cooperation is a joint command center in Yemen, where officials from the two countries evaluate intelligence gathered by America and other allies, such as Saudi Arabia, say U.S. and Yemeni officials. There, they decide when and how to launch missile strikes against the highly secretive list of alleged al Qaeda operatives approved by the White House for targeted killing, these people say.”


Far from solving the problem of extremists in Yemen, however, this US presence in the country seems to be creating more extremism. According to professor Gregory Johnson of Princeton University, an expert on Yemen, the civilian “collateral damage” from US drone strikes on al-Qaeda members actually attracts more al-Qaeda recruits:


“There are strikes that kill civilians. There are strikes that kill women and children. And when you kill people in Yemen, these are people who have families. They have clans. And they have tribes. And what we're seeing is that the United States might target a particular individual because they see him as a member of al-Qaeda. But what's happening on the ground is that he's being defended as a tribesman.”


The US government is clearly at war in Yemen. It is claimed they are fighting al-Qaeda, but the drone strikes are creating as many or more al-Qaeda members as they are eliminating. Resentment over civilian casualties is building up the danger of blowback, which is a legitimate threat to us that is unfortunately largely ignored. Also, the US is sending mixed signals by attacking al-Qaeda in Yemen while supporting al-Qaeda linked rebels fighting in Syria.

This cycle of intervention producing problems that require more intervention to “solve” impoverishes us and makes us more, not less, vulnerable. Can anyone claim this old approach is successful? Has it produced one bit of stability in the region? Does it have one success story? There is an alternative. It is called non-interventionism. We should try it. First step would be pulling out of Yemen.

'we are not at war in Yemen. There is nothing to see here. Move along. Republicans are evil, look at them... Thanks - President Obama'
 
US Drones Pound Yemen, But Targets Aren’t All Militants (just suspects)

Everyone who gets killed in a drone strike by the US government in Yemen is officially labeled a “suspect.” That’s just the way Yemeni security forces do things But 12 distinct attacks in the last two weeks have killed 49, including a lot of apparent bystanders

Indeed, of all the US strikes the administration was only willing to say that “at least 14” of the slain were al-Qaeda militants. That leaves 35 others who the locals say are just random civilians killed in strikes that are hitting civilian areas.

The backlash is growing in intensity as the strikes do, following a similar trend to the anti-US sentiment the strikes fueled across Pakistan, which eventually dominated this year’s election.

One civilian in the town of Jaar, just north of Zinjibar, reported taking his daughter from school to a nearby clinic for a doctor’s appointment. Hellfire missiles destroyed the clinic. He and his children fled back to the school to hide in the basement. The school, was then hit in a followup attack, destroying it and killing his daughter.

Such stories have been a constant feature of drone wars since they began, and where in previous conflicts the US would’ve tried to shrug off the killings as “collateral damage” these days they use an even more convenient term, “suspect.”
http://news.antiwar.com/2013/08/11/us-drones-pound-yemen-but-targets-arent-all-militants/

(suspected militants is the phrase of convenience)
 
We are not at war with Yemen. We are, as directed by Bush, at war with terror. The home of al Qaeda is Yemen, and the Yemeni give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Don't like drones taking out terrorists with no loss of American soldiers? Tough. Don't like civilians used as shields by the terrorists? Tell the Yemeni people to handle it.
 
We are not at war with Yemen. We are, as directed by Bush, at war with terror. The home of al Qaeda is Yemen, and the Yemeni give aid and comfort to the enemy.

Don't like drones taking out terrorists with no loss of American soldiers? Tough. Don't like civilians used as shields by the terrorists? Tell the Yemeni people to handle it.
You're rationalizing Howie. If we're not at war how comes our armed forces are in a foreign country killing people?
 
Obama is taking an interesting gamble here. He is betting that American rejection of Bush is that he conducted wars in the ground where thousands of troops were in danger (rather than just the occasional special operation). He is therefore concluding that we will ignore an entire drone campaign. I like this.

:megusta:
 
Obama is taking an interesting gamble here. He is betting that American rejection of Bush is that he conducted wars in the ground where thousands of troops were in danger (rather than just the occasional special operation). He is therefore concluding that we will ignore an entire drone campaign. I like this.

:megusta:

It's just like Nixon did 40 years ago.
 
Obama is taking an interesting gamble here. He is betting that American rejection of Bush is that he conducted wars in the ground where thousands of troops were in danger (rather than just the occasional special operation). He is therefore concluding that we will ignore an entire drone campaign. I like this.

:megusta:
He hasn't been wrong.
 
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