why no 'good guys with guns' you ask? this is why

Three people were killed and two others injured in a shooting at a home stemming from a dispute between neighbors on Saturday night in Hawaii, police said.

Witnesses reported that a 58-year-old man was using a front-end loader to ram cars into the home where a family gathering was taking place, then opened fire at people gathered in the carport, fatally shooting three women at the residence in Waianae, a community about 30 miles west of downtown Honolulu, Honolulu police detective Lt. Deena Thoemmes said at a news conference.

At some point, a 42-year-old man who lived in the home fatally shot the suspect with a handgun, she said at a news conference.

The shooter was also fatally shot by a resident, who was arrested on a second-degree murder charge.
“In Hawaii, we are a non ‘stand your ground’ state,” he said. “Even if you have a license to carry, if you're an individual that discharges a firearm that is involved in injuring another person, ... you're going to be arrested.”


 
Three people were killed and two others injured in a shooting at a home stemming from a dispute between neighbors on Saturday night in Hawaii, police said.

Witnesses reported that a 58-year-old man was using a front-end loader to ram cars into the home where a family gathering was taking place, then opened fire at people gathered in the carport, fatally shooting three women at the residence in Waianae, a community about 30 miles west of downtown Honolulu, Honolulu police detective Lt. Deena Thoemmes said at a news conference.

At some point, a 42-year-old man who lived in the home fatally shot the suspect with a handgun, she said at a news conference.

The shooter was also fatally shot by a resident, who was arrested on a second-degree murder charge.
“In Hawaii, we are a non ‘stand your ground’ state,” he said. “Even if you have a license to carry, if you're an individual that discharges a firearm that is involved in injuring another person, ... you're going to be arrested.”


What does Stand your Ground have to do with defending the victims.

It will be interesting to see where this case goes.
 
Three people were killed and two others injured in a shooting at a home stemming from a dispute between neighbors on Saturday night in Hawaii, police said.

Witnesses reported that a 58-year-old man was using a front-end loader to ram cars into the home where a family gathering was taking place, then opened fire at people gathered in the carport, fatally shooting three women at the residence in Waianae, a community about 30 miles west of downtown Honolulu, Honolulu police detective Lt. Deena Thoemmes said at a news conference.

At some point, a 42-year-old man who lived in the home fatally shot the suspect with a handgun, she said at a news conference.

The shooter was also fatally shot by a resident, who was arrested on a second-degree murder charge.
“In Hawaii, we are a non ‘stand your ground’ state,” he said. “Even if you have a license to carry, if you're an individual that discharges a firearm that is involved in injuring another person, ... you're going to be arrested.”



That is nuts. Hawaii wants you to just stand there and be killed.
 
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