Why Trump* caved on China.

[tsuke]

its funny. If you look at US pundits they say this was a bad deal if you look at the chinese they say this is as bad as the unequal treaties. Ive even seen some people ask how much opium they need to buy lol.

Since both sides are whining perhaps neither got everything they wanted.

 

[tsuke]

also what a bullshit article. China has not gone to war since 1979. Ignoring the things that they did to Tibet

 

[Grokmaster]

Trump signs first phase of US-China trade deal



President Trump and Chinese Vice Premier Liu He signed an initial "Phase One" trade agreement Wednesday, freezing a 20-month trade war between Washington and Beijing and opening the door to a more-substantial "Phase Two" deal.

The deal, text of which was not released ahead of the signing, is said to include commitments by China to buy $200 billion of U.S. goods, including as much as $50 billion in agricultural products over two years.

“Today we take a momentous step, one that has never been taken before with China, toward a future of fair and reciprocal trade as we sign Phase One of the historic trade deal between the United States and China,” Trump said.
“Together we are righting the wrongs of the past and delivering a future of economic justice and security for American workers, farmers and families.”

The deal will halve 15 percent tariffs on $120 billion of Chinese imports, but leave 25 percent tariffs on an additional $250 billion of imports in place. Agreement on the deal prevented a planned increase in the tariff rate in October and a new round of tariffs in December.
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[Truth Detector]

It IS the other way around. China has been forced to the negotiating table by the Trump tariffs.

I agree!

 

[Jarod]

Yes..massively increasing ag purchases and forcing an agreement on tech theft was "caving".

The POOR, DESPERATE TREASON-O-CRATS ARE FLAILING.....

THere will be no"massively increased ag purchases" you are super naive. There is only a statement saying they will increase ag purchases..... No enforcement or consequences. IN fact not even any collection of data to see if it happens.

 

[Jarod]

Of course and then Phase 2 begins in earnest.

Hahah, I remember the lie about “phase 2”, that was a whopper!

 

[Bill]

lol, he only got phase one, because that is all he could get-a hill of beans....... Is the communist party still buying??

trump will safe us by cutting great deals, selling tons of beans, while the CCP sends us highly processed goods, high tech & huge balance of trade deficits........

Gotta love it when all the fecal conservatives circle around the guy that put us trillions more in debt

 

[dukkha]

you idiots act like there was not a Wu-Flu
~~

Trump can't reset a decade of outsourcing, but he did bring back those manufacturing jobs Obama said
wouldn't happen without a "magic wand".. 470k. Obama lost 200k

Beijing Biden will end tariffs on "day one" -meaning no more negotiations.

Status Quo Joe says we gotta get "other nations involved" LMAO - Xi is already picking them off one
by one with his One Road One Belt.
Xi will give him a big bear hug and a state dinner the WTO goes back to being a paper tiger we file grievances
with and nothing ever comes of it.

 

[Bill]

Status Quo Joe says we gotta get "other nations involved" LMAO - Xi is already picking them off one
by one with his One Road One Belt.
Xi will give him a big bear hug and a state dinner the WTO goes back to being a paper tiger we file grievances
with and nothing ever comes of it.

I believe that is a stronger, better approach than going it alone against China. The reasons are obvious to everyone but those that believe trump is fixing the problems~he is mostly making them worse. China is laying sanctions on American companies &-> the gap by which imports exceeded exports in August*widened to more than $67 billion, its highest monthly tally in 14 years..

What is trump doing to prevent that??

 

[Grokmaster]

How much did this cave cost us?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...3e3b98-38a7-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html

THE CHINESE WERE FORCED TO THE TRADE TABLE BECAUSE OF THE DAMAGE US TARIFFS WERE CAUSING THEM.

THEY AGREED TO BUIY ,AMING OTHER THINGS ,$63+ BILLION MORE IN US AG PRODUCTS THAN EVER BEFORE.


IT WAS THE OBIDENS WHO "CAVED" TO CHINA...AND THE REST OF THE WORLD AS WELL..


DO YOU EVER TELL THE TRUTH???? EVER???..

 

[dukkha]

I believe that is a stronger, better approach than going it alone against China. The reasons are obvious to everyone but those that believe trump is fixing the problems~he is mostly making them worse. China is laying sanctions on American companies &-> the gap by which imports exceeded exports in August*widened to more than $67 billion, its highest monthly tally in 14 years..

What is trump doing to prevent that??

the trade gap?
not much can be done -and it's not anywhere near as important as creating jobs

 

[Jarod]

you idiots act like there was not a Wu-Flu
~~

Trump can't reset a decade of outsourcing, but he did bring back those manufacturing jobs Obama said
wouldn't happen without a "magic wand".. 470k. Obama lost 200k

Beijing Biden will end tariffs on "day one" -meaning no more negotiations.

Status Quo Joe says we gotta get "other nations involved" LMAO - Xi is already picking them off one
by one with his One Road One Belt.
Xi will give him a big bear hug and a state dinner the WTO goes back to being a paper tiger we file grievances
with and nothing ever comes of it.

He caved before the coronavirus hit. Plus he thought it was gonna be over in just a few days, so why would he have continued to cave if the coronavirus was the reason?

 

[Bill]

the trade gap?
not much can be done -and it's not anywhere near as important as creating jobs

sure

Xi is already picking them off one
by one with his One Road One Belt.

????

 

[Jarod]

This thread is fun, remember when Trumps sanctions on China failed?