Why would the left oppose a clean CR?

Yakuda

Yakuda

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With the schumer shutdown now at day 20 one has to wonder why the leftists would oppose a clean CR if they cared about the American people as much as they claim they do. A clean CR would get things back up and running without anyone having to concede anything. So what's the reason they won't agree to it?
 
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Yakuda said:
With the schumer shutdown now at day 20 one has to wonder why the leftists would oppose a clean CR if they cared about the American people as much as they claim they do. A clean CR would get things back up and running without anyone having to concede anything. So what's the reason they won't agree to it?


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Like everything else with the dems its all political and schumer's political career is close to almost over since AOC is taking in the reins
of the current Marxist/Progressive/Socialist dem party. With the young commie mamdani about to take over N.Y.C. as its mayor, all the
left has now to maintain their TDS hate Trump minds is to keep the govt shutdown at the behest of schumer.
 
Libhater said:
Like everything else with the dems its all political and schumer's political career is close to almost over since AOC is taking in the reins
of the current Marxist/Progressive/Socialist dem party. With the young commie mamdani about to take over N.Y.C. as its mayor, all the
left has now to maintain their TDS hate Trump minds is to keep the govt shutdown at the behest of schumer.
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They really do hate America!
 
why did they add sunset provisions to these subsidies in the first place?

They simply lie about their intentions. they were never temporary to them - hence we are shut down now - they will hold us hostage over a vote they know they can't win otherwise
 
Yakuda said:
With the schumer shutdown now at day 20 one has to wonder why the leftists would oppose a clean CR if they cared about the American people as much as they claim they do. A clean CR would get things back up and running without anyone having to concede anything. So what's the reason they won't agree to it?
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You know why, don't you?
 
The problem in a single sentence.

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Walt said:
Because the Republicans have refused to let anyone vote on a clean continuing resolution. That would pass quickly.
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Bullshit. There have been twelve (12) votes on a clean CR now and the DEMOCRATS refuse to support it. They want one with $1.5 trillion in new, deficit, spending to prop up Obamacare.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Bullshit. There have been twelve (12) votes on a clean CR now and the DEMOCRATS refuse to support it. They want one with $1.5 trillion in new, deficit, spending to prop up Obamacare.
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The revenue to support the 22 million American's subsidies has already been collected, so not a deficit. Even if it has not, there is no way that the subsidies could cost $1.5 trillion. That would be $68k per person.
 
Walt said:
The revenue to support the 22 million American's subsidies has already been collected, so not a deficit. Even if it has not, there is no way that the subsidies could cost $1.5 trillion. That would be $68k per person.
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It's not just the enhanced and permanently extended subsidies, Salty Walty.

It is accurate to state that the Democrats' current demands - specifically, their counterproposals for a continuing resolution (CR) to fund the government - are projected to add an additional $1.5 trillion to the national debt over the next decade.

This estimate comes from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), which analyzed the full package as including the repeal of approximately $1.1 trillion in health spending cuts from the earlier "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" (a Republican-led reconciliation measure) and a permanent extension of enhanced Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies set to expire at the end of 2025, totaling about $400 billion in additional costs.

The CR itself (the core funding extension) does not drive this figure, but the attached policy riders do, exacerbating the existing $38 trillion national debt amid ongoing shutdown negotiations

.This projection aligns with broader fiscal analyses, such as those from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which have similarly flagged the ACA subsidy extension alone as costing $400 billion over 10 years, while the health cut repeals would compound borrowing needs without offsetting revenue measures.

No major independent source disputes the $1.5 trillion ballpark for this specific proposal, Salty Walty/
 
Walt said:
The revenue to support the 22 million American's subsidies has already been collected, so not a deficit. Even if it has not, there is no way that the subsidies could cost $1.5 trillion. That would be $68k per person.
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That has nothing to do with the $1.5 trillion. That is primarily, and almost entirely, to prop up Obamacare. With subsidies ending, Obamacare is set to turn into the full disaster it has always been but staved off by massive Democrat subsidy spending.

They want to reverse and eliminate the subsidies ended in the OBBBA to the tune of about $300 billion. Then they want to extend enhanced subsidies that were put in place during the Chinese Disease panic, another $360 billion. Tack on another $40 billion for reversing changes to the Obamacare marketplace. And then there's the almost $700 billion for expanded Medicaid subsidies they want extended. It all comes out to right at $1.5 trillion in NEW spending that currently is set to expire at the end of this year.

For the Democrats, all that money lost hits blue states the hardest as they're the ones most invested in expanded Medicaid and Obamacare. When premiums skyrocket in personal costs (they won't change much in total price, just the subsidy amounts shift making individuals responsible for much more of the bill) and people on expanded Medicaid lose coverage--or the alternative, those states double or triple their state income taxes--the Democrats recognize that they are absolutely ass fucked.

They don't give a shit that another $1.5 trillion in NEW spending isn't affordable and will cause a massive spike in inflation, the CPI, etc. They figure they can blame Trump for all of that and get off scot free. Thus, their shutdown of the government is all about political leverage and payola to groups that might turn on the Democrats in the midterms if they are hit hard financially. That is, the Democrats want to buy votes with that money, fuck the nation. It's all about staying in office and expanding their power.
 
Remember, many of the world's deadly revolutions that brought in Marxist governments began with hungry people demanding fundamental change. The Marxist wing of the Nondemocratic party needs millions of hungry Americans demanding fundamental change, who will surrender their freedoms and who will grant authority to abolish the Constitution to the first people who will "solve" their hunger problem.

The Marxist wing of the Nondemocratic party has no interest in any Americans receiving their SNAP, or in the government opening to somehow make life better for Americans. The Nondemocratic party want's pain throughout America. They want a violent, ANTIFA/BLM-led revolution to tear down our institutions and to hand power to Eva Peron. Conservatives will be rounded up and sent to the gulags.

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