Women lived free in Afghanistan:before civil war, invasion and the Taliban

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Looks like they will be returned to enslavement when the West leaves them to their fate again.

Women in Afghanistan were brutally repressed under Taliban rule from 1996 to 2001 – but a series of fascinating old photographs show how women there used to live freely. The Taliban were condemned around the world for their treatment of women. Under their rule women were forbidden to be educated, publicly beaten for showing disobedience and forced to wear burqas – a garment that covers the whole body, apart from the eyes.

However, Mohammad Humayon Qayoumi, who was born in Kabul in Afghanistan, and went on to become an engineering professor at San Jose State University, wrote a photo-essay book called Once Upon A Time in Afghanistan that documented how life before the Taliban used to very different for women. His photographs from the 1950s, 60s and 70s show how they used to be afforded university-level education, browse record shops in short skirts and study science.

Indeed a State Department report from the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour from 2001 explains how women were given the vote in the 1920s, were granted equality in the Afghan constitution in the 1960s and by the early 1990s formed 70 per cent of school teachers, 50 per cent of government workers and in Kabul, 40 per cent of doctors.

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There was a time that I though Karzai was an okay guy, not no more. What has he done to restore rights to women? He considers them to be second-class citizens. If he did this while the West is still around, what fresh hell will be be up to when the West leaves?

"Last Friday, the Council, Afghanistan's highest Islamic authority, issued a non-binding edict saying that women were worth less than men – a statement released by Mr Karzai's office and then endorsed by the president on Tuesday.

"Men are fundamental and women are secondary," it said, adding women should avoid "mingling with strange men in various social activities such as education, in bazaars, in offices and other aspects of life".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...arzai-under-fire-on-Afghan-womens-rights.html
 
There was a time that I though Karzai was an okay guy, not no more. What has he done to restore rights to women? He considers them to be second-class citizens. If he did this while the West is still around, what fresh hell will be be up to when the West leaves?

"Last Friday, the Council, Afghanistan's highest Islamic authority, issued a non-binding edict saying that women were worth less than men – a statement released by Mr Karzai's office and then endorsed by the president on Tuesday.

"Men are fundamental and women are secondary," it said, adding women should avoid "mingling with strange men in various social activities such as education, in bazaars, in offices and other aspects of life".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...arzai-under-fire-on-Afghan-womens-rights.html

He is trying to suck up to the Taliban for when they return, he is hoping to stay on but has probably already secured a way out if/when the shit hits the fan.
 
What I think Karzai is working towards is an evolution out of Sharia as opposed to a revolution. The Soviet Union underwent a revolution out of communism and suffered for it. The Chinese underwent an evolution and are prospering.

Here in the USA, conservatives are hankering for a conservative revolution, when in reality we can't even get an evolution underway. Liberals were better at understanding evolution, but Obamacare itself was a health care revolution and predictably proceeded in a disastrous fashion.

I give Karzai the benefit of the doubt. Sharia was instilled through fear and violence, and uprooting it will a difficult task without fear and violence.
 
What I think Karzai is working towards is an evolution out of Sharia as opposed to a revolution. The Soviet Union underwent a revolution out of communism and suffered for it. The Chinese underwent an evolution and are prospering.

Here in the USA, conservatives are hankering for a conservative revolution, when in reality we can't even get an evolution underway. Liberals were better at understanding evolution, but Obamacare itself was a health care revolution and predictably proceeded in a disastrous fashion.

I give Karzai the benefit of the doubt. Sharia was instilled through fear and violence, and uprooting it will a difficult task without fear and violence.

I hope that you are right but I fear that you are wrong.
 
I could be wrong, but what other option is there?

He could try to remove Sharia by lining up fundamentalists in the town square and shooting them in front of everyone, much in the same manner that they came into power. That's not going to make anyone over here happy either. Just because he is offending western women sensibilities with his comments doesn't mean he isn't making progress. I'm sure what he'd have to say about gay marriage would be even more frightful to American sensibilities.

However, he's not trying to change the USA. He's trying to change his own country.

And that's the trick. Whether discussing history or foreign policy, liberals seems have to difficulty understanding worlds any other than their own.
 
I could be wrong, but what other option is there?

He could try to remove Sharia by lining up fundamentalists in the town square and shooting them in front of everyone, much in the same manner that they came into power. That's not going to make anyone over here happy either. Just because he is offending western women sensibilities with his comments doesn't mean he isn't making progress. I'm sure what he'd have to say about gay marriage would be even more frightful to American sensibilities.

However, he's not trying to change the USA. He's trying to change his own country.

And that's the trick. Whether discussing history or foreign policy, liberals seems have to difficulty understanding worlds any other than their own.

I agree that he has to work with what he has but he isn't derogatively called the Mayor of Kabul for nothing.
 
What I think Karzai is working towards is an evolution out of Sharia as opposed to a revolution. The Soviet Union underwent a revolution out of communism and suffered for it. The Chinese underwent an evolution and are prospering.

Here in the USA, conservatives are hankering for a conservative revolution, when in reality we can't even get an evolution underway. Liberals were better at understanding evolution, but Obamacare itself was a health care revolution and predictably proceeded in a disastrous fashion.

I give Karzai the benefit of the doubt. Sharia was instilled through fear and violence, and uprooting it will a difficult task without fear and violence.

The difficulty about 'evolving' normal healthcare in the US, surely, is that you can't quickly jump from amoeba to human when under constant attack by alien creatures from the black lagoon?
 
see how the idiots think healthcare is a BAD thing?

they want women to not have any birth control and want them to bare children they dont want.

WHY??????


so they can control the lives of women
 
I fucking hate it when they PRETEND they care about women elsewhere yet want to strip women here of protections they have had for DECADES.


70 % of Americans support the right to chose.


You idiots want to go back in history?


do it without the rest of us.
 
I fucking hate it when they PRETEND they care about women elsewhere yet want to strip women here of protections they have had for DECADES.


70 % of Americans support the right to chose.


You idiots want to go back in history?


do it without the rest of us.

The Kraken wakes!
 
I fucking hate it when they PRETEND they care about women elsewhere yet want to strip women here of protections they have had for DECADES.


70 % of Americans support the right to chose.


You idiots want to go back in history?


do it without the rest of us.

Go hijack someone else's thread, you cretin.
 
yeah because little red imaginary bricks really prove your point huh Aox?


why does the right want women stripped of birth control?


to control them you asshole.

why don't they take Viagra too?


think about it you fucktard
 
dear fucking idiot,


you lost decades ago.

us women will NEVER go backwards.

when you going to fucking figure that out?
 
never is my guess.

You will die as stupid as you lived.


good thing is your postions will FAIL.

You will not be able to strip any American of their rights
 
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