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Cypress

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Why is this even being debated or litigated?


Religious groups must offer employees birth control: US Court

AFP
Monday October 1, 2007

The US Supreme Court rejected Monday a bid by Roman Catholic and Baptist groups to stop offering their employees birth-control benefits as part of their health insurance.

The case hinged on the organizations' right to place their own beliefs at the center of their employment practices, offering a new battle ground over the age-old state versus religion debate at the start of the court's new year.

The top court rejected a petition by the groups arguing that by being forced to offer contraception pills and equipment on their employee health-insurance plans, their First Amendment rights to free speech were violated.

The petition sought to overturn a New York state law that mandated that all employees of religious groups must have access to birth-control measures as part of their employer-provided health insurance.

The Catholic Church teaches that contraception is "intrinsically evil," eight Catholic organizations backed by a Baptist church had argued in their petition.

"In keeping with this teaching, church entities cannot facilitate or promote, directly or indirectly, the practice of contraception," they said.




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Cypress said:
Why is this even being debated or litigated?


Religious groups must offer employees birth control: US Court

AFP
Monday October 1, 2007

The US Supreme Court rejected Monday a bid by Roman Catholic and Baptist groups to stop offering their employees birth-control benefits as part of their health insurance.

The case hinged on the organizations' right to place their own beliefs at the center of their employment practices, offering a new battle ground over the age-old state versus religion debate at the start of the court's new year.

The top court rejected a petition by the groups arguing that by being forced to offer contraception pills and equipment on their employee health-insurance plans, their First Amendment rights to free speech were violated.

The petition sought to overturn a New York state law that mandated that all employees of religious groups must have access to birth-control measures as part of their employer-provided health insurance.

The Catholic Church teaches that contraception is "intrinsically evil," eight Catholic organizations backed by a Baptist church had argued in their petition.

"In keeping with this teaching, church entities cannot facilitate or promote, directly or indirectly, the practice of contraception," they said.




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Why should they be forced to offer them anything? Employers set their own terms of benefits in any job and adjust them according to how hard it is to find employees.
You guys talk about wanting to keep religion out of government, well fine, but this is a clear case of government interfering in religion.
And look at the title you chose, you dishonestly LIE and portray it as something to do with women's "rights". Who in America has the "right" to have government force their employer to buy them pills of any kind?

This is why you are such a devious SOB comrade P...
 
Yeah right and if you work for a Jehovas witness group you should be denied blood transfusions ?

Duhh, it is a medical thing not to be micromanaged by an employer. What is next emergency room pray for healing by preachers in stead of treatment by DR's ?
 
uscitizen said:
Yeah right and if you work for a Jehovas witness group you should be denied blood transfusions ?
Duhh, it is a medical thing not to be micromanaged by an employer. What is next emergency room pray for healing by preachers in stead of treatment by DR's ?
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We are talking about pills, not lifesaving healthcare treatment.
Moreover people leave jobs all the time for better benefits, they are hardly stuck in a job. Plus you are still free to choose and pay for whatever additional healthcare you want, do you think it's cruel that employers don't pay people's water bills?
You have a paycheck and individual responsibility for a reason, to give you more power over your own choices.

Also, how many nuns working for the above mentioned Roman Catholic chuches are going to want birth control pills and do you really think that those Jehovas witnesses working for a Jehovas witness group are going to demand blood transfusions anyway?
Like you say 'think a little', in your case 'very little'
 
TheDanold said:
We are talking about pills, not lifesaving healthcare treatment.
Moreover people leave jobs all the time for better benefits, they are hardly stuck in a job. Plus you are still free to choose and pay for whatever additional healthcare you want, do you think it's cruel that employers don't pay people's water bills?
You have a paycheck and individual responsibility for a reason, to give you more power over your own choices.

Also, how many nuns working for the above mentioned Roman Catholic chuches are going to want birth control pills and do you really think that those Jehovas witnesses working for a Jehovas witness group are going to demand blood transfusions anyway?
Like you say 'think a little', in your case 'very little'
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In your case none. Go find something else to parrot.
 
It'd be a great joke, if the catholic church only had nuns as female employees.

However, those who are remotely aware of religious organizations, know that the catholic church is a huge employer, not just of clergy, but of administrative, non-profit charities, healthcare, and educational staff.

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Cypress said:
It'd be a great joke, if the catholic church only had nuns as female employees.

However, those who are remotely aware of religious organizations, know that the catholic church is a huge employer, not just of clergy, but of administrative, non-profit charities, healthcare, and educational staff.

:cof1:
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Which changes my question not even one iota. Does this mean they are required to offer birth control to nuns?
 
Damocles said:
Which changes my question not even one iota. Does this mean they are required to offer birth control to nuns?
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Yes I see that as a chioce for the Nuns. Of course whether they remained Nuns would be an internal personal type of religious issue.

I see the legal aspect and the religious aspect as two different things.
 
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