Jobless Figures Pose Social, Political Threat for Obama, Dems

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A month ago, when the jobless rate was edging toward 9 percent, it was clear that the most serious challenge facing the Obama administration was rising unemployment.

Unfortunately, Obama's pretty-close-to-clueless economic team peddled the absurd spin that because the rate of increase in the official total of out-of-work Americans had slowed somewhat in May the current recession might be easing. That happy talk dulled the sense of urgency, and the White House let another month pass without focusing seriously

That was a bad mistake.

During the month of June, 467,000 more Americans lost their jobs.

The official unemployment rate now stands at 9.5 percent.

That's the highest level since August, 1983, during the severe recession of the early 1980s.

It is now all but certain next month's figures will take America's official unemployment rate into double digits – and take the Obama administration closer to both an economic and political flashpoint that the president should be focused on avoiding. ((The key word there is "official," as the actual unemployment rate – including the long-term unemployed and the seriously underemployed, as well as those who are out of work but have not applied for benefits – is already in double digits.)

"The numbers are indicative of a continued, very severe recession," economist Stuart G. Hoffman told the New York Times, after reviewing the new jobless figures. "There's nothing in here to show that the economy and the market are pulling out of the grip of recession."

The stock markets reacted rationally.

The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index fell almost 3 percent.

The Dow Jones industrial average fell 223 points.

The Nasdaq composite index dropped 49.20 points.

The state of California is printing i.o.u.'s to "pay" local governments, vendors and taxpayers to which it owes money.

Referring to the ridiculously optimistic pronouncements of the president and his aides about "green shoots" of economic recovery, Tom Di Gamola of Guggenheim Partners told The Times, "These green shoots are turning brown."

The Obama administration needs to get a whole lot more serious about the real economy.

The president and his aides can begin by recognizing that the $787 billion stimulus plan of earlier this year was a political response to an economic crisis. It was weighted down with tax cuts for the wealthy and unfocused in its approach to job creation. The White House needs to start listening to people who know a thing or two about these matters, such as United Steelworkers union president Leo Gerard and Leo Hindery Jr., the chair of the Smart Globalization Initiative at the New America Foundation, who have outlined a plan to use smart manufacturing strategies and new trade policies to forge a job-driven recovery.

The failure of the president and his aides to focus on Main Street's unemployment crisis as aggressively as they have on Wall Street's financial crisis is already haunting Obama. If that official unemployment rate moves into the double digits, it will rapidly become the most serious threat to his presidency.

History is instructive, chillingly so, in this regard:

Administrations that focused too intently on repairing Wall Street and too little on the real hurt of real people.

The elections of 1930 (Depression shifts 49 House seats and 8 Senate seats R to D), 1932 (Depression shifts 101 House, 13 Senate R to D and parties of the left), 1958 (recession shifts 48 House, 12 Senate R to D), 1974 (Watergate/recession shift 48 House, 4 Senate R to D) and 1982 (recession shifts 26 House, 1 Senate R to D) all produced massive rearrangements in the makeup of the Congress. In each case, Democrats gained because they were seen as the party that cared more about working people than Wall Street. In contrast, in 1994, Democrats suffered massive losses after President Bill Clinton adopted Wall Street's agenda on free trade and NAFTA and proposed a health care "reform" that would have enriched some of the country's largest insurance companies.

No matter what your party or ideology, certain facts of political life hold steady. The first of these is that a party that lets unemployment surge -- especially if it gets into into double digits -- and that does not seem to be focused on addressing the crisis is "at risk" of suffering serious losses at the next election.
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Again .. who did not see this coming?

Two words .. Larry Summers

Who did not see this coming?
 
Expectations are a funny thing. I really don't know where people thought we would be at right now, but I never had any illusions that we'd be up & out of a recession like this in the course of a few months or even this year.

The admin is certainly guilty of rosy projections, but where I get a little lost is what more they could do for Main St. at this point. First, I'm one who believes that Main St. & Wall St. are not separate entities; they both rely on each other's success. Second, most of the stimulus is geared toward Main St. jobs, not Wall St.

I understand arguments that they're not spending the stimulus fast enough, and agree.
 
Are you denying that Reagan did great things as President?

Reagan was a terrible President. He created the homeless crisis in America. The Soviet Union crumbled from within (started decades before Reagan, according to Soviet officials). He read off of index cards for every meeting he was in. He was responsible for huge budget deficits.
 
Expectations are a funny thing. I really don't know where people thought we would be at right now, but I never had any illusions that we'd be up & out of a recession like this in the course of a few months or even this year.

The admin is certainly guilty of rosy projections, but where I get a little lost is what more they could do for Main St. at this point. First, I'm one who believes that Main St. & Wall St. are not separate entities; they both rely on each other's success. Second, most of the stimulus is geared toward Main St. jobs, not Wall St.

I understand arguments that they're not spending the stimulus fast enough, and agree.

When you spend trillions on Wall Street and give them a pat on the back .. then turn around and spend peanuts on developing Main Street and saving the US auto industry .. then spank them with "tough love", you can expect that people will notice.

Building bridges and roads will not put America back to work.

Obama and his clueless economic team have been selling pipedreams and illusions. There is a reason he chose all the people who got it wrong for his economic team and shunned those who have been right about the economy all along, like Paul Krugman.

If democrats like you don't begin to critically examine Obama's policies, he may very well follow Clinton in giving away all the political advantages in Congress he now enjoys .. then it will be back to democrats whining about how evil republicans are.

Even if you love the guy, critical examination is crucial to staying in power.
 
"then turn around and spend peanuts on developing Main Street and saving the US auto industry "

That's not an accurate characterization.

And bailing out the banks was an absolute necessity if you're either an owner or employee of a small or medium-sized business; those businesses need bank loans to survive.
 
I agree with the premice, but dissagree with rightwing tools joy over it.
The economy will (not is) turn around. And the turn around will have higher growth than the consensus. Obama will get too much credit and the policy mistakes will be glossed over (that never happens in DC).
It will suck enourmously for the Ronny Reagan I put the drug war-(read war on young independent thinkers) on steroids bootstrappers into yet another 4yr tissy.
 
Staff, probably.

Don't be drawn into agreeing with idiocy.

Reagan was a horrible president.

Reagan's crimes are many and started well before he was President when he and Bush paid the Iranian's to not release the hostages in order to prevent the re-election of Jimmy Carter in 1980, not mention his reign of stupidity as Governor of California. The hostages were released as promised as Reagan was sworn into office. Reagan then secretly sold chemical & biological weapons to Iraq and told CIA buddy Saddam Hussein to step up bombing of Iran while still selling weapons to Iran in a war that claimed an estimated one million victims. The criminal activities in the Mid East stretched around the world to Central America in the spectacle that came to be known as Iran-Contra.

In Afghanistan, Reagan was busy funding Ossama bin Laden and a terrorist army to displace the Russians. Once the mighty 'Muhjadeen' had completed their task they were partially abandoned and became the Taliban and Al Queda. With no real replacement intended for the Russian backed government, the radical muslims quickly took power. Only later did the army without a war become the enemy so desperately needed by the US defense industry.

In Central America, Reagan-Bush ran a massive criminal operation that imported hundreds of tons of cocaine into the US and shipped arms illegally to the terrorist Contras that Reagan affectionately called "Freedom Fighters". Coca paste was brought in from South America by plane to an airstrip near Puntarenas, Costa Rica owned by Reagan/Bush supporter Julio Calleja and processed on the ranch of CIA operative John Hull. From there the high-grade coke was shipped by plane to the Mina, Arkansas Airport under the protection of Bill Clinton and to various Air Force bases..

Under direct US control, Reagan's 'Freedom Fighters' raped, tortured and murdered tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Nicaragua in an effort to bring down Nicaragua's first democratically elected government. The US had previously ruled Nicaragua through the brutal Somoza family dicatorship, once the dictatorship was overthrown by a popular revolution the US was quick to start an illegal campaign of terror against the government and civilians. The campaign of terror claimed 50,000 lives and crippled the entire nation.

Nicaragua took its case to the World Court. The court found that the U.S. actions constituted "an unlawful use of force .... [that] cannot be justified either by collective self-defence ... nor by any right of the United States to take counter-measures involving the use of force." The court ordered the United States to pay reparations, estimated at between $12 billion and $17 billion, to Nicaragua. Two weeks after the verdict was issued, the U.S. Congress voted to give the Contras $100 million to continue their war of terror against the people of Nicaragua. The US has never recognized the World Court's ruling or paid any of the compensation owed to Nicaragua.

"The ripple effects of that criminal murderous intervention in my country will go on for 50 years or more." Fr. D'Escoto, Priest and former Nicaraguan Foreign Minister

Reagan's blood-fest wasn't limited to Nicaragua, his puppet military dictators abducted, tortured, murdered and mutilated close to 200,000 civilians in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras in the name of 'democracy' and fighting communism. Nor was the slaughter done only through the US controlled dictators. In operations that are still highly classified, US AC-130 gunships, crewed by US personnel, flew at night over mountainous areas with potential rebels and killed anything that gave off body-heat. The AC-130 is a highly sophisticated computerized killing machine that "incorporate side-firing weapons integrated with sophisticated sensor, navigation and fire control systems to provide surgical firepower or area saturation during extended loiter periods, at night and in adverse weather. The sensor suite consists of a television sensor, infrared sensor and radar." - US Air Force

In 1999 the United Nations determined that the wholesale slaughter of Guatemalans, constituted "genocide." It was a genocide ordered and managed by the White House under Reagan.

For their part in Iran-Contra fourteen high level government officials were charged, yet few of them were convicted and received any real penalty. Bush pardoned six of the conspirators. Some of those involved in the Iran-Contra crimes were back in power in the Bush administration.

America's worst financial disaster since the Great Depression occured under Reagan with the collapse of the Savings & Loan system. Nearly $500 billion was looted from thousands of Savings & Loans by a criminal ring that included the Mafia, CIA and the Bush family. Neil Bush was involved in the collapse of Silverado Savings & Loan but never served any jail time. By the time the Federal government and elite is done milking the scam further, US taxpayers will have paid well over a trillion dollars.

The full extent of Reagan's crimes may never be known because George W. Bush issued an executive order which countermands the 1978 Presidential Records Act and prevents the release of 68,000 pages of Reagan era documents. Given that Reagan lacked the intelligence to carry out some of the more elaborate crimes, the records are likely to shed light on the true role of the Bush crime family.

Let us remember Reagan as he really was...

Liar
Thief
Mass murderer
War criminal
Traitor
Destroyer of freedom
Destroyer of the environment
Corporate whore
Idiot, moron
 
"then turn around and spend peanuts on developing Main Street and saving the US auto industry "

That's not an accurate characterization.

And bailing out the banks was an absolute necessity if you're either an owner or employee of a small or medium-sized business; those businesses need bank loans to survive.

I have much respect for your thoughts good brother, but here we disagree.

I am a small business owner, and I do not need bank loans to survive. If one needs bank loans to survive, they probably will not survive.

Obama and his clueless team have not put the same emphasis on Main Street that they have on Wall Street. That's not a secret .. and for democrats to ignore/excuse this action only makes the complicit in the inevitable fall.
 
One of my main points is. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. The economy boomed under Reagan, so people gloss over the horrific underbelly of the Reagan admin. I believed the god worship the neocons threw on him till I did a few hours of reading.
He was a freaking pig like Nixon that didn't give too shits about the average Joe. see war on drugs(read young people, especially young black people).
 
liberals seem to be really big on that 'employment is a lagging indicator' thing now.

how soon can I expect to see that presidents have very little to do with the economy.
 
One of my main points is. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. The economy boomed under Reagan, so people gloss over the horrific underbelly of the Reagan admin. I believed the god worship the neocons threw on him till I did a few hours of reading.
He was a freaking pig like Nixon that didn't give too shits about the average Joe. see war on drugs(read young people, especially young black people).
Reagan is responsible for securing the freedom of literally millions and he did so without firing a shot. He was also against abortion which kills more black babies every year no surprise you play the race card since your argument is so weak. Topper why are you so gay?
 
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