Presented with evidence that innocent people who are not members of any gang were wrongly deported to a slave prison in El Salvador

AProudLefty

AProudLefty

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AProudLefty said:
Presented with evidence that innocent people who are not members of any gang were wrongly deported to a slave prison in El Salvador, Homan flatly insists that all of them were in fact gang members (but he's unwilling to detail any evidence showing it)

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Did they enter the country illegally? Yes or no. If they did they need to be deported. Simple as that. I don't care if they were gang members or not simply because they already deserved deportation by being here illegally.
 
Stone said:
Did they enter the country illegally? Yes or no. If they did they need to be deported. Simple as that. I don't care if they were gang members or not simply because they already deserved deportation by being here illegally.
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Read the OP again.
 
AProudLefty said:
Presented with evidence that innocent people who are not members of any gang were wrongly deported to a slave prison in El Salvador, Homan flatly insists that all of them were in fact gang members (but he's unwilling to detail any evidence showing it)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903827459981607167
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He doesn't have to, Sybil. Administrative hearings don't have to report ro you.
 
Stone said:
Did they enter the country illegally? Yes or no. If they did they need to be deported. Simple as that. I don't care if they were gang members or not simply because they already deserved deportation by being here illegally.
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That's too linear - too simplistic. And I don't mean offense by that. But there are so many undocumented immigrants here who have worked here for years, established lives, have families.

It's too easy & lazy to say "they broke the law - they have to go." There is incomprehensible cruelty in that if we play it out to the extreme, and truly deport all of these people. We all know some of these people. They're part of our communities. They're not "criminals" beyond what they did to get here.

And it would hurt our country to literally deport all of them.
 
AProudLefty said:
He was presented with evidence that they were not members of any gang.

Again. Reread it.
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I said straight away that I didn't care about the gang activity. That's secondary. Were they here illegally or not? That's all that matters. If they were then they deserve deportation.
 
BartenderElite said:
That's too linear - too simplistic. And I don't mean offense by that. But there are so many undocumented immigrants here who have worked here for years, established lives, have families.

It's too easy & lazy to say "they broke the law - they have to go." There is incomprehensible cruelty in that if we play it out to the extreme, and truly deport all of these people. We all know some of these people. They're part of our communities. They're not "criminals" beyond what they did to get here.
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Then why cant you or I just break the law? hey,...I broke it a few years ago so why not just let it be. NO. The law IS THE LAW.
 
Stone said:
Then why cant you or I just break the law? hey,...I broke it a few years ago so why not just let it be. NO. The law IS THE LAW.
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Dude, put yourself in many of their shoes. You or I would do the same thing. Take immigrants from Haiti, for example - that country is run by gangs. If you have a family there, you worry about their lives every single day. There is nothing but despair.

Of course they're going to try to come to America, to make a better & safer life for themselves & their families. It's what our ancestors did. You can say they need to follow the rules & the law, but these are desperate situations that we can't even imagine in our cushy existence.

Let's not demonize people like this, and put them anywhere near the level of the real criminals.
 
They fucked around and found out.

Hope the word gets out that play time is over to other invaders.
 
BartenderElite said:
Dude, put yourself in many of their shoes. You or I would do the same thing. Take immigrants from Haiti, for example - that country is run by gangs. If you have a family there, you worry about their lives every single day. There is nothing but despair.

Of course they're going to try to come to America, to make a better & safer life for themselves & their families. It's what our ancestors did. You can say they need to follow the rules & the law, but these are desperate situations that we can't even imagine in our cushy existence.

Let's not demonize people like this, and put them anywhere near the level of the real criminals.
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I'm not demonizing them,....but the law is the law. Heres a great example. Let's say a rural family is going thru financial hardship. Husband goes out and shoots a deer out of season to feed his family. The law says that he is to be heavily fined, can be jailed, lose hunting rights, can have his firearm AND VEHICLE confiscated and sold at auction. So,...does the judge just IGNORE the written law? He really cant.
 
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