Can a "common-sense" American please explain this for me ?

Dachshund

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This really does my head in.

What it is, is that America had a Christian Founding. Almost all of the 53 Founding Fathers were church-going Christian Protestants. Right?


America's Founding Documents - "The Declaration of Independence" and the US Constitution were hugely influenced by the political theory of the Englishman, John Locke, who was one of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers and a very devout Protestant. Locke is still known as the Father of (classical) liberalism, and this was the political ideology that the Republic was founded upon. Right?


Now every major ideal, value, belief, moral/political/legal/principle that was written into the "Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was anathema to - in hostile, 180-degree opposition to Karl Marx's political theory of COMMUNISM (i.e. Marxism). To begin with, Karl Marx hated the Christian God and wanted to "dethrone Him"; so Marxism has always been an ATHEIST political system. Marx also HATED capitalism and wanted to rid the world of all free-market capitalist societies (especially America) by banning the right of persons to own private property.. He also wanted to annihilate (WHITE, European) Western culture/civilisation.



It doesn't work because Karl Marx misunderstood human nature, and because he was an evil ass-hole (read any scholarly biography of Karl Marx if you want to learn what a degenerate he was in his personal life !).


Communist Regimes never worked anywhere they were tried. In the 20th-century communism murdered over 100,000,000 civilians, and tortured, enslaved, worked to death and imprisoned God knows how many others (?)



From 1947 to 1991 America fought the Soviet Union (which was the a superpower because the Soviet's goal was to conquer the globe and America said "NO WAY." Ronald Reagan famously called the USSR - "The Evil Empire" and he was dead right. Soviet Marxism was a basically a tyrannical "Death Cult."


In 1991 Reagan finally wiped the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth. (YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY - Go the "Gipper").



But Marxism lives on in America today. It doesn't call itself "MARXISM", of course, because the word conjures up piles of corpses and unspeakable atrocities, instead it uses "fig-leaves" like "Progressive" Democrat,; Democratic Socialist, Critical Race Theorist, Gender Theorist, "woke" activist, "anti-racist" DEI advocate, radical feminist, BLMgnc organiser.



These people are perfect examples: AOC; Bernie Sanders; Kimberle Crenshaw; Cory Booker; Ibrim X. Kendi; Nicole Hannah-Jones; Kamala Harris; Joy Reid; Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crokett., and many others in or associated with the Democratic Party.



Guess What, THEY ARE ALL MARXISTS who are motivated by the same fundamentally twisted political obsessions as Karl Marx, only the superficial appearance of their politics is different. (Note the disproportionate number of Blacks/POCs in their ranks. There is a logical explanation for this, but I think that would be the subject matter of a separate post).



My question is this: American conservatives are no so naive they do not realise these people are MARXISTS/communists, (and in a sense they are even more dangerous and morally-bankrupt thanthe "old-school" Marxists of the early 20th-century - because they are so, mendacious, devious and well- practiced in the art/skills of manipulative, moralistic rhetoric (among other things) SO WHY ARE THEY STLL WALKING AROUND AMERICA FREE THEY ARE 100% MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS AND DEADLY ENEMIES OF THE AMERICAN STATE ! WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED FOR TREASON ?? !!


Dachshund the Wonder Hound

Dachshund Lives Matter !!
 
This really does my head in.

What it is, is that America had a Christian Founding. Almost all of the 53 Founding Fathers were church-going Christian Protestants. Right?


America's Founding Documents - "The Declaration of Independence" and the US Constitution were hugely influenced by the political theory of the Englishman, John Locke, who was one of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers and a very devout Protestant. Locke is still known as the Father of (classical) liberalism, and this was the political ideology that the Republic was founded upon. Right?


Now every major ideal, value, belief, moral/political/legal/principle that was written into the "Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was anathema to - in hostile, 180-degree opposition to Karl Marx's political theory of COMMUNISM (i.e. Marxism). To begin with, Karl Marx hated the Christian God and wanted to "dethrone Him"; so Marxism has always been an ATHEIST political system. Marx also HATED capitalism and wanted to rid the world of all free-market capitalist societies (especially America) by banning the right of persons to own private property.. He also wanted to annihilate (WHITE, European) Western culture/civilisation.



It doesn't work because Karl Marx misunderstood human nature, and because he was an evil ass-hole (read any scholarly biography of Karl Marx if you want to learn what a degenerate he was in his personal life !).


Communist Regimes never worked anywhere they were tried. In the 20th-century communism murdered over 100,000,000 civilians, and tortured, enslaved, worked to death and imprisoned God knows how many others (?)



From 1947 to 1991 America fought the Soviet Union (which was the a superpower because the Soviet's goal was to conquer the globe and America said "NO WAY." Ronald Reagan famously called the USSR - "The Evil Empire" and he was dead right. Soviet Marxism was a basically a tyrannical "Death Cult."


In 1991 Reagan finally wiped the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth. (YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY - Go the "Gipper").



But Marxism lives on in America today. It doesn't call itself "MARXISM", of course, because the word conjures up piles of corpses and unspeakable atrocities, instead it uses "fig-leaves" like "Progressive" Democrat,; Democratic Socialist, Critical Race Theorist, Gender Theorist, "woke" activist, "anti-racist" DEI advocate, radical feminist, BLMgnc organiser.



These people are perfect examples: AOC; Bernie Sanders; Kimberle Crenshaw; Cory Booker; Ibrim X. Kendi; Nicole Hannah-Jones; Kamala Harris; Joy Reid; Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crokett., and many others in or associated with the Democratic Party.



Guess What, THEY ARE ALL MARXISTS who are motivated by the same fundamentally twisted political obsessions as Karl Marx, only the superficial appearance of their politics is different. (Note the disproportionate number of Blacks/POCs in their ranks. There is a logical explanation for this, but I think that would be the subject matter of a separate post).



My question is this: American conservatives are no so naive they do not realise these people are MARXISTS/communists, (and in a sense they are even more dangerous and morally-bankrupt thanthe "old-school" Marxists of the early 20th-century - because they are so, mendacious, devious and well- practiced in the art/skills of manipulative, moralistic rhetoric (among other things) SO WHY ARE THEY STLL WALKING AROUND AMERICA FREE THEY ARE 100% MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS AND DEADLY ENEMIES OF THE AMERICAN STATE ! WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED FOR TREASON ?? !!


Dachshund the Wonder Hound

Dachshund Lives Matter !!
Nope they were deists
 
This really does my head in.

What it is, is that America had a Christian Founding. Almost all of the 53 Founding Fathers were church-going Christian Protestants. Right?

Wrong. Many of the leading Founders were deists who believed the Protestant Church was nonsense.
 
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Is Deism a branch of Christianity?

Christian deism is different from Deism in that it branches from Christianity. Christian Deists believe that God does take an ongoing interest in the world and humanity but God does not control the world or humanity.

 
This really does my head in.

What it is, is that America had a Christian Founding. Almost all of the 53 Founding Fathers were church-going Christian Protestants. Right?


America's Founding Documents - "The Declaration of Independence" and the US Constitution were hugely influenced by the political theory of the Englishman, John Locke, who was one of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers and a very devout Protestant. Locke is still known as the Father of (classical) liberalism, and this was the political ideology that the Republic was founded upon. Right?


Now every major ideal, value, belief, moral/political/legal/principle that was written into the "Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was anathema to - in hostile, 180-degree opposition to Karl Marx's political theory of COMMUNISM (i.e. Marxism). To begin with, Karl Marx hated the Christian God and wanted to "dethrone Him"; so Marxism has always been an ATHEIST political system. Marx also HATED capitalism and wanted to rid the world of all free-market capitalist societies (especially America) by banning the right of persons to own private property.. He also wanted to annihilate (WHITE, European) Western culture/civilisation.



It doesn't work because Karl Marx misunderstood human nature, and because he was an evil ass-hole (read any scholarly biography of Karl Marx if you want to learn what a degenerate he was in his personal life !).


Communist Regimes never worked anywhere they were tried. In the 20th-century communism murdered over 100,000,000 civilians, and tortured, enslaved, worked to death and imprisoned God knows how many others (?)



From 1947 to 1991 America fought the Soviet Union (which was the a superpower because the Soviet's goal was to conquer the globe and America said "NO WAY." Ronald Reagan famously called the USSR - "The Evil Empire" and he was dead right. Soviet Marxism was a basically a tyrannical "Death Cult."


In 1991 Reagan finally wiped the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth. (YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY - Go the "Gipper").



But Marxism lives on in America today. It doesn't call itself "MARXISM", of course, because the word conjures up piles of corpses and unspeakable atrocities, instead it uses "fig-leaves" like "Progressive" Democrat,; Democratic Socialist, Critical Race Theorist, Gender Theorist, "woke" activist, "anti-racist" DEI advocate, radical feminist, BLMgnc organiser.



These people are perfect examples: AOC; Bernie Sanders; Kimberle Crenshaw; Cory Booker; Ibrim X. Kendi; Nicole Hannah-Jones; Kamala Harris; Joy Reid; Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crokett., and many others in or associated with the Democratic Party.



Guess What, THEY ARE ALL MARXISTS who are motivated by the same fundamentally twisted political obsessions as Karl Marx, only the superficial appearance of their politics is different. (Note the disproportionate number of Blacks/POCs in their ranks. There is a logical explanation for this, but I think that would be the subject matter of a separate post).



My question is this: American conservatives are no so naive they do not realise these people are MARXISTS/communists, (and in a sense they are even more dangerous and morally-bankrupt thanthe "old-school" Marxists of the early 20th-century - because they are so, mendacious, devious and well- practiced in the art/skills of manipulative, moralistic rhetoric (among other things) SO WHY ARE THEY STLL WALKING AROUND AMERICA FREE THEY ARE 100% MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS AND DEADLY ENEMIES OF THE AMERICAN STATE ! WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED FOR TREASON ?? !!


Dachshund the Wonder Hound

Dachshund Lives Matter !!
What's it to you, mutt?
You're the Aussies' problem. We have our own.

Why don't you just mind your own business?
No American with two functioning brain cells gives a fat fuck about your opinion.
 
History shows that under 30 percent of Americans were church goers before the Revolutionary War. Fewer than 15 percent were religious after the war. 52 out of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were deists and freemasons who wanted an enlightened secular state.
Jefferson said America was not founded on Christianity, that America required a separation of church and state because there were so many Americans from different backgrounds and countries.
 

Can a "common-sense" American please explain this for me ?​



This really does my head in.

What it is, is that America had a Christian Founding. Almost all of the 53 Founding Fathers were church-going Christian Protestants. Right?


America's Founding Documents - "The Declaration of Independence" and the US Constitution were hugely influenced by the political theory of the Englishman, John Locke, who was one of the Enlightenment's greatest thinkers and a very devout Protestant. Locke is still known as the Father of (classical) liberalism, and this was the political ideology that the Republic was founded upon. Right?


Now every major ideal, value, belief, moral/political/legal/principle that was written into the "Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was anathema to - in hostile, 180-degree opposition to Karl Marx's political theory of COMMUNISM (i.e. Marxism). To begin with, Karl Marx hated the Christian God and wanted to "dethrone Him"; so Marxism has always been an ATHEIST political system. Marx also HATED capitalism and wanted to rid the world of all free-market capitalist societies (especially America) by banning the right of persons to own private property.. He also wanted to annihilate (WHITE, European) Western culture/civilisation.



It doesn't work because Karl Marx misunderstood human nature, and because he was an evil ass-hole (read any scholarly biography of Karl Marx if you want to learn what a degenerate he was in his personal life !).


Communist Regimes never worked anywhere they were tried. In the 20th-century communism murdered over 100,000,000 civilians, and tortured, enslaved, worked to death and imprisoned God knows how many others (?)



From 1947 to 1991 America fought the Soviet Union (which was the a superpower because the Soviet's goal was to conquer the globe and America said "NO WAY." Ronald Reagan famously called the USSR - "The Evil Empire" and he was dead right. Soviet Marxism was a basically a tyrannical "Death Cult."


In 1991 Reagan finally wiped the Soviet Union off the face of the Earth. (YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY - Go the "Gipper").



But Marxism lives on in America today. It doesn't call itself "MARXISM", of course, because the word conjures up piles of corpses and unspeakable atrocities, instead it uses "fig-leaves" like "Progressive" Democrat,; Democratic Socialist, Critical Race Theorist, Gender Theorist, "woke" activist, "anti-racist" DEI advocate, radical feminist, BLMgnc organiser.



These people are perfect examples: AOC; Bernie Sanders; Kimberle Crenshaw; Cory Booker; Ibrim X. Kendi; Nicole Hannah-Jones; Kamala Harris; Joy Reid; Ilhan Omar and Jasmine Crokett., and many others in or associated with the Democratic Party.



Guess What, THEY ARE ALL MARXISTS who are motivated by the same fundamentally twisted political obsessions as Karl Marx, only the superficial appearance of their politics is different. (Note the disproportionate number of Blacks/POCs in their ranks. There is a logical explanation for this, but I think that would be the subject matter of a separate post).



My question is this: American conservatives are no so naive they do not realise these people are MARXISTS/communists, (and in a sense they are even more dangerous and morally-bankrupt thanthe "old-school" Marxists of the early 20th-century - because they are so, mendacious, devious and well- practiced in the art/skills of manipulative, moralistic rhetoric (among other things) SO WHY ARE THEY STLL WALKING AROUND AMERICA FREE THEY ARE 100% MARXISTS/COMMUNISTS AND DEADLY ENEMIES OF THE AMERICAN STATE ! WHY ARE THEY NOT ARRESTED AND PROSECUTED FOR TREASON ?? !!


Dachshund the Wonder Hound

Dachshund Lives Matter !!

Certainly was NOT a "common sense" person who asked the question.

In fact, after reading the OP, I doubt its author would be able to recognize "common sense" if it bit him on the ass.
 
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