If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[ZenMode]

Where does God condone child abuse? Nothing in the gospel is immoral.

Deuteronomy 21:18-22:30
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18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.

You still have not answered my questions. Stop evading.

You didn't.

Stop making shit up.

Incoherent babbling.

 

[Into the Night]

Agreed on both points. Same goes for political extremists or any other form of extremist beliefs.

Like conspiracy theorists, extremists have long been a curiosity for me since it's irrational to back oneself up to a walk and never consider other options.

Yet you're an extremist.

 

[Into the Night]

Even today's legal system agrees with me. Patterns of behavior are a significant in court cases.

It's not just the Patterns, It's the contradictions and inconsistencies in the Bible. It's God endorsing clearly immoral behavior and then changing his mind. That sounds a lot more like man wrote "God's" rules and then man changed his mind and then man is left trying to retrofit man's new morality into what the Bible taught.

We're seeing it happen today with homosexuality as churches (man) struggle to adjust.

Void argument fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

I like your metaphor of studying message board kooks like lab rats

He likes to talk about himself.

 

[Into the Night]

I'll tell you what "look silly."

Someone like you trying to make it seem logical to say, "There are no gods" or "It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is one."

But...atheists like you apparently want to be just like the religionists. You want to make a blind guess about the REALITY of existence...AND THEN DEFEND THAT BLIND GUESS FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.

Sad to see. But you are stuck with it.

That is why you want to argue with religionist...so that you can point out that their blind guesses (beliefs) are not able to withstand rigorous (or even casual) scrutiny. That way you do not have to defend YOUR blind guesses (beliefs.)

Not so easy to do in a discussion or argument with an agnostic type.

I say that you do not know if any gods exists...or what any that do exist are like...and that, for some reason, you are unable to just leave it at that. Instead, you want to join with the religionists in making a guess...a totally unnecessary and irrelevant guess.

Bad move, Zen.

He is not an atheist. He is a fundamentalist in:
The Church of No God
The Church of Covid
The Church of Global Warming
The Church of Green
The Church of the Ozone Hole
The Church of Hate

 

[gfm7175]

Lol...why, so you can ignore it or make excuses for it?

When someone makes a claim, I expect them to be able to rationalize that claim. Instead, you're just making shit up.

You already rationalized God killing innocent children on Passover.

Yup, what God did was perfectly rational and just. Meanwhile, you attempt to rationalize the killing of innocent children inside their mother's wombs.

There's absolutely no reason to believe you'll be any more reasonable with other examples.

 

[Into the Night]

Jesus said it is.

He never did.

the golden rule rules out slavery.

No, it doesn't. Presentism fallacy.

do you want to be enslaved?

No. I stay out of prison. I don't support Democrats, oligarchies, or dictatorships. However, I DO support enforcing the law.

 

[ZenMode]

When someone makes a claim, I expect them to be able to rationalize that claim. Instead, you're just making shit up.

Yup, what God did was perfectly rational and just.

For a homicidal psychopath, yes. For the objective determiner of all that is moral, no.

Meanwhile, you attempt to rationalize the killing of innocent children inside their mother's wombs.

 

[Into the Night]

Defending slavery.....nice.

He isn't supporting slavery, Void. You are hallucinating again.

 

[Into the Night]

no they aren't.

prison isn;t slavery.

Yes it is.

you;re an anarcho communist privatizer.

Nonsense ignored. Go learn English. You are still have a lot of trouble with it.

 

[Monad Portal]

He never did.

No, it doesn't. Presentism fallacy.

No. I stay out of prison. I don't support Democrats, oligarchies, or dictatorships. However, I DO support enforcing the law.

the golden rule rules out slavery, and is the whole of the law.

and prison is not slavery.

stop being an anarcho communist libertarian enemy of society privatizer.

 

[Monad Portal]

Yes it is.

Nonsense ignored. Go learn English. You are still have a lot of trouble with it.

no, prison isn't slavery.

no reasonable people believe that, anarchist pro-china cretin.

 

[Into the Night]

Nothing....I mean nothing I could show you would matter. You are 100% brainwashed.

Void argument fallacy. Mantra 1d. Lame.

 

[Into the Night]

Deuteronomy 21:18-22:30​

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18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.

Incoherent babbling.

Yup. That's what you're doing!

A court can order sentencing, dummy. Did you know that?

 

[Into the Night]

no, prison isn't slavery.

It sure is.

no reasonable people believe that, anarchist pro-china cretin.

You don't get to speak for everbody. Omniscience fallacy. I am not from China.

 

[Into the Night]

For a homicidal psychopath, yes.

What 'homicidal psychopath'?

For the objective determiner of all that is moral, no.

The Bible contains many morals. You cannot make them just disappear.

 

[Into the Night]

Then why didn't God/Jesus say that in the OT? Why would God/Jesus need to change his mind?

He didn't. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

 

[Monad Portal]

It sure is.

You don't get to speak for everbody. Omniscience fallacy. I am not from China.

nobody smart things prison is slavery, idiotic anarchist fukchole.

 

[Into the Night]

Funny because it's true.

Anonymous forums are a great way to study certain demographics since, like the maxim "a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts", such forums provide an avenue for people to post unfiltered. They can be their innermost selves.....a target rich environment when studying nutjobs. LOL

So you consider yourself a lab rat.

Have they been experimenting on you?

 

[IBDaMann]

30% of the 10 Commandments are God talking ...

Too funny! You couldn't bring yourself to just write "3 commandments are God talking ..."

Why is it that I, in a matter of seconds, can write a more moral 10 Commandments than the all-knowing creator of the universe,

Where did you write this "more moral code"?

... who is claimed to be the objective moral compass for all mankind?

That would be me. What do you need?

Nevermind that I endorse killing kids for convenience and that I support the killing of all unwanted living humans who haven't yet been born.

... but why?