A ONE TERM PRESIDENT?

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The president's pork-laden stimulus bill isn't working
Sunday, July 19, 2009


By Jack Kelly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Shortly after a Quinnipiac University poll reported July 7 that President Barack Obama's job approval rating in Ohio had fallen 13 percentage points in two months to 49 percent, the White House dispatched Vice President Joe Biden to that crucial swing state to defend the administration's efforts to deal with the economic crisis.
This was a mistake, for two reasons.


The first is that almost every journalist reporting on the vice president's speech would feel compelled to reference the Quinnipiac poll. This, noted Jim Geraghty of National Review Online, was like "hanging a lantern" on the problem.


The second is that Joe Biden is a motormouth, liable to say anything. The White House slapped him down after Mr. Biden said on ABC's "This Week" program July 5 that the administration had "misread how bad the economy was." (When asked about the remark, Mr. Obama said there wasn't a misreading, just a lack of information in the early days of his presidency.)


Speaking in Cincinnati to a crowd of "about 200," some of them protesters, Mr. Biden asked for patience. "Remember we're only 140 days into this deal," he said. "It's supposed to take 18 months."


This isn't what Mr. Obama and his aides were saying in February. Back then we were told the $787 billion stimulus bill had to be rushed through Congress to keep unemployment from rising to 8 percent.

"No one in the House read that bill because the urgency was such that the president said we had to act now and if we acted now, we would stave off job loss and we'd get America back to work," recalled Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the GOP whip.


At an elaborate signing ceremony in Denver Feb. 17, Mr. Obama said the stimulus bill would "create or save" 3.5 million jobs, starting right away. He also said then that he expected to be held accountable for the results.


With unemployment in June at 9.5 percent, and with the president himself now acknowledging the unemployment rate is likely to exceed 10 percent before year's end, it's pretty bizarre for Mr. Obama to say, as he did in his radio address July 11, that the stimulus bill "has worked as intended."


A report from New Hampshire suggests why the stimulus bill hasn't stimulated the economy much.


According to the state office responsible for tracking the money, New Hampshire has received so far $413.6 million in stimulus funds, which have resulted in the creation of 50 jobs, all in government, most of them temporary and only 34 of them full time. That comes to a cost of $8.32 million per job, or nearly $10 million per full-time job, if we assume that two of the part-time jobs equal one full-time job.


The Obama administration claims the stimulus bill has "saved" jobs, but there is no way statistically to verify this, and the state government hasn't reported any in New Hampshire.


"No genius was required to see the stimulus wasn't going to work because it consisted mostly of pork-barrel projects of such dubious merit that not even a Democratic Congress was likely to have approved them if they hadn't been bundled together to reduce scrutiny and rushed through under the guise of an emergency. As Mr. Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, put it: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."


In a column in February, I called the stimulus bill "the porkalooza," and predicted it would define Mr. Obama's presidency, and could shorten it.


"As more details of what's in [the stimulus bill] become known, already tepid support will cool further," I wrote then. "And if the economy doesn't turn around, support for the president will plummet."


I'm more scornful of the porkalooza than ever, but I'm glad now that it passed. That's because the porkalooza "only" wastes great gobs of money. The president's plans to nationalize health care and to impose a "cap and trade" system have serious implications for our liberty as well as our solvency.


But because of the massive debt Mr. Obama is running up with the porkalooza, his nationalization of Chrysler and General Motors and his proposed budget for the next fiscal year, popular enthusiasm for trillion-dollar spending programs has pretty much dried up.


And because the president's claims for the porkalooza have turned out to be so wrong (or so disingenuous), people are wary of the promises he's making about health care reform and energy policy.


Sometimes, Rahm Emanuel, it's better to solve a crisis than to take advantage of it.


Jack Kelly is a columnist for the Post-Gazette and The (Toledo) Blade (jkelly@post-gazette.com, 412 263-1476). More articles by this author
First published on July 19, 2009 at 12:00 am

 
Keep praying, Tutu. If the economy doesn't recover by this time next year, the Dems are toast in the mid-terms. If it doesn't recover by 2012, Obama is definitely toast.

If it does, we can expect the opposite results.

Regardless, both timeframes are political eternities. No doubt you are hoping for continued recession & job losses, but I see that scenario as unlikely.
 
Keep praying, Tutu. If the economy doesn't recover by this time next year, the Dems are toast in the mid-terms. If it doesn't recover by 2012, Obama is definitely toast.

If it does, we can expect the opposite results.

Regardless, both timeframes are political eternities. No doubt you are hoping for continued recession & job losses, but I see that scenario as unlikely.



precisely
 
Keep praying, Tutu. If the economy doesn't recover by this time next year, the Dems are toast in the mid-terms. If it doesn't recover by 2012, Obama is definitely toast.

If it does, we can expect the opposite results.

Regardless, both timeframes are political eternities. No doubt you are hoping for continued recession & job losses, but I see that scenario as unlikely.

good lord.....are you really such a partisan hack....i honestly thought better of you....
 
We can only hope he is one term..

and it's not just the economy now..it's the spending spree that he is on, the taxes that he has raised and is going to raise on people..and all his lies...
oh it's a lot more than just the economy now..

you all forget over 50 million people voted AGAINST "the Obama"
 
good lord.....are you really such a partisan hack....i honestly thought better of you....

How is that hackish?

Obama will be judged on results. All I said is that if the economy is good, he'll likely win; if it's not, he'll likely lose.

Your comment is very strange.
 
Not so stimulating


The president's pork-laden stimulus bill isn't working
Sunday, July 19, 2009


I liked the republican economic plan. Slash government spending and outlays during a major economic contraction.

Anyway, I don’t think you’re going to have to wait one term. Once your crack rightwing investigators prove Obama was born in Kenya, he’ll have to resign from office in disgrace.
 
keep praying......:pke:

You're really one of the strangest posters on this board. Tutu posts that 6 months in, Obama is a one-termer. I reply that he'll be judged on the results in 2 & 4 years, which is reality.

And that's 'being a hack,' but Tutu's constant harping is just fine & dandy.
 
Keep praying, Tutu. If the economy doesn't recover by this time next year, the Dems are toast in the mid-terms. If it doesn't recover by 2012, Obama is definitely toast.

If it does, we can expect the opposite results.

Regardless, both timeframes are political eternities. No doubt you are hoping for continued recession & job losses, but I see that scenario as unlikely.

I'm not hoping for a continued recession and job losses. I love my country too much.
 
You're really one of the strangest posters on this board. Tutu posts that 6 months in, Obama is a one-termer. I reply that he'll be judged on the results in 2 & 4 years, which is reality.

And that's 'being a hack,' but Tutu's constant harping is just fine & dandy.

He loves me. :D
 
you all forget over 50 million people voted AGAINST "the Obama"

And?

Is this supposed to mean anything?

You still LOST. Elections have consequences. In any Presidential election, there are 10's of millions who vote against the winner; it doesn't matter.
 
Not so stimulating


The president's pork-laden stimulus bill isn't working Sunday, July 19, 2009


By Jack Kelly, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Shortly after a Quinnipiac University poll reported July 7 that President Barack Obama's job approval rating in Ohio had fallen 13 percentage points in two months to 49 percent, the White House dispatched Vice President Joe Biden to that crucial swing state to defend the administration's efforts to deal with the economic crisis.
This was a mistake, for two reasons.


The first is that almost every journalist reporting on the vice president's speech would feel compelled to reference the Quinnipiac poll. This, noted Jim Geraghty of National Review Online, was like "hanging a lantern" on the problem.


The second is that Joe Biden is a motormouth, liable to say anything. The White House slapped him down after Mr. Biden said on ABC's "This Week" program July 5 that the administration had "misread how bad the economy was." (When asked about the remark, Mr. Obama said there wasn't a misreading, just a lack of information in the early days of his presidency.)


Speaking in Cincinnati to a crowd of "about 200," some of them protesters, Mr. Biden asked for patience. "Remember we're only 140 days into this deal," he said. "It's supposed to take 18 months."


This isn't what Mr. Obama and his aides were saying in February. Back then we were told the $787 billion stimulus bill had to be rushed through Congress to keep unemployment from rising to 8 percent.

"No one in the House read that bill because the urgency was such that the president said we had to act now and if we acted now, we would stave off job loss and we'd get America back to work," recalled Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the GOP whip.


At an elaborate signing ceremony in Denver Feb. 17, Mr. Obama said the stimulus bill would "create or save" 3.5 million jobs, starting right away. He also said then that he expected to be held accountable for the results.


With unemployment in June at 9.5 percent, and with the president himself now acknowledging the unemployment rate is likely to exceed 10 percent before year's end, it's pretty bizarre for Mr. Obama to say, as he did in his radio address July 11, that the stimulus bill "has worked as intended."


A report from New Hampshire suggests why the stimulus bill hasn't stimulated the economy much.


According to the state office responsible for tracking the money, New Hampshire has received so far $413.6 million in stimulus funds, which have resulted in the creation of 50 jobs, all in government, most of them temporary and only 34 of them full time. That comes to a cost of $8.32 million per job, or nearly $10 million per full-time job, if we assume that two of the part-time jobs equal one full-time job.


The Obama administration claims the stimulus bill has "saved" jobs, but there is no way statistically to verify this, and the state government hasn't reported any in New Hampshire.


"No genius was required to see the stimulus wasn't going to work because it consisted mostly of pork-barrel projects of such dubious merit that not even a Democratic Congress was likely to have approved them if they hadn't been bundled together to reduce scrutiny and rushed through under the guise of an emergency. As Mr. Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, put it: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."


In a column in February, I called the stimulus bill "the porkalooza," and predicted it would define Mr. Obama's presidency, and could shorten it.


"As more details of what's in [the stimulus bill] become known, already tepid support will cool further," I wrote then. "And if the economy doesn't turn around, support for the president will plummet."


I'm more scornful of the porkalooza than ever, but I'm glad now that it passed. That's because the porkalooza "only" wastes great gobs of money. The president's plans to nationalize health care and to impose a "cap and trade" system have serious implications for our liberty as well as our solvency.


But because of the massive debt Mr. Obama is running up with the porkalooza, his nationalization of Chrysler and General Motors and his proposed budget for the next fiscal year, popular enthusiasm for trillion-dollar spending programs has pretty much dried up.


And because the president's claims for the porkalooza have turned out to be so wrong (or so disingenuous), people are wary of the promises he's making about health care reform and energy policy.


Sometimes, Rahm Emanuel, it's better to solve a crisis than to take advantage of it.

Jack Kelly is a columnist for the Post-Gazette and The (Toledo) Blade (jkelly@post-gazette.com, 412 263-1476). More articles by this author
First published on July 19, 2009 at 12:00 am


ROTFL. You mean el supremo partisan hack Jack Kelly, that Jack Kelly? He may have cred out in wingnut land, but here he's just another repub toady we LOA'sO about. :rolleyes:

"Every Saturday morning I look forward to the Jack Kelly column on the Op-Ed page of the Blade. As surely as things fall down, Kelly can be counted on to recycle half-informed (not to mention half-formed) arguments from the right side of the blogosphere, and dutifully march forth to make the GOP sanctioned argument of the week. His modus operandi is simple and unvarying: report the facts that support his thesis, ignore everything that undermines it and end with an overblown claim that Democrats (or the 'nay-sayers' or peacenicks or Bush-critics) are nothing more than unrepentant liars. He rarely lies outright (though I have caught a few), but his one-sided presentation of the facts always produces a deeply deceptive column. I warn you, if you try to make pro-Republican arguments based on what you read in a Jack Kelly column, you will quickly establish that you are an easily hoodwinked fool. There are good honest conservatives out there, but Jack Kelly isn't one of them, he exists to regurgitate the GOP line of the day."

More on Kelly here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jack_Kelly
 
Keep praying, Tutu. If the economy doesn't recover by this time next year, the Dems are toast in the mid-terms. If it doesn't recover by 2012, Obama is definitely toast.

If it does, we can expect the opposite results.

Regardless, both timeframes are political eternities. No doubt you are hoping for continued recession & job losses, but I see that scenario as unlikely.
You're forgetting the ability of political parties to shoot themselves in the foot. If the Repubs do something stupid like nominate Palin or Huckabee then Obama cold go into rehab for crack and still win re-election. Don't believe it? Just remember 04 when the Dems nominated Kerry.
 
ROTFL. You mean el supremo partisan hack Jack Kelly, that Jack Kelly? He may have cred out in wingnut land, but here he's just another repub toady we LOA'sO about. :rolleyes:

"Every Saturday morning I look forward to the Jack Kelly column on the Op-Ed page of the Blade. As surely as things fall down, Kelly can be counted on to recycle half-informed (not to mention half-formed) arguments from the right side of the blogosphere, and dutifully march forth to make the GOP sanctioned argument of the week. His modus operandi is simple and unvarying: report the facts that support his thesis, ignore everything that undermines it and end with an overblown claim that Democrats (or the 'nay-sayers' or peacenicks or Bush-critics) are nothing more than unrepentant liars. He rarely lies outright (though I have caught a few), but his one-sided presentation of the facts always produces a deeply deceptive column. I warn you, if you try to make pro-Republican arguments based on what you read in a Jack Kelly column, you will quickly establish that you are an easily hoodwinked fool. There are good honest conservatives out there, but Jack Kelly isn't one of them, he exists to regurgitate the GOP line of the day."

More on Kelly here: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Jack_Kelly

So? Can you disprove what he said? No? I didn't think so. Deal with it.
 
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