I think the laws we have now pretty well cover the issue if tissue or child. The first trimester gives the woman time to disscover the issue and make the best choice for herself. You see it would not exsist anywhere but in her body and she owns her body and gets to deside not you.
You want to force your religious beliefs down peoples throats and making abbortion illegal makes for more women dead. You see if the woman dies so does this tissue huh? You want to stop abortions then come up with the perfect birth control device or maybe figure out how to make a zygote turn into a child outside of the womans body. Then you could adopt all the zygotes people have removed from their body.
Your time and money would be much more honestly spent and you would not be fighting this unwinable batttle of trying to tell people what to believe when they dont agree with you.
Firemedic you are probably a nice guy but your religionis not the only belief in this world. I am serious about that you should raise money for research if you really cant stand by and watch the law as it is. The only way it will ever be stopped is to end the need for it in the ways I sugest.
It is the flat truth.
First of all I am not debating this on any "religious" views. Though I am a Christian I don't need to debate it on my Christian beliefs. I am arguing on a philosophical, moral, and scientific standpoint. Just because my Christian beliefs are in line with the point I raise does not mean my points are any less valid. Who is forcing beliefs down who's throat here? Abortion is currently legal. If it is the law that makes it a right and it's the state that gives the laws that allow it, then people should not get too upset if the state someday takes it away.
Second of all it is extremely ignorant to assume the "laws have determined what is tissue and what is child". That is the cop-out that alot of pro-choice people chose but have they ever seen what an 8 week gestation human "tissue" looks like? Seriously? How is it that "tissue" has a beating heart? How about the fact that that tissue will develop into a fully grown human someday. That "tissue" you speak of is a human in it's earliest stages is it not?
""The critical difference between a collection of cells and a living organism is the ability of an organism to act in a coordinated manner for the continued health and maintenance of the body as a whole. It is precisely this ability that breaks down at the moment of death, however death might occur. Dead bodies may have plenty of live cells, but their cells no longer function together in a coordinated manner."
See, this is the question that I have been raising...what is human? This is moral question because science reasons that the fertilized egg is a human in it's earliest stages of development. It has everything it needs cell-wise to develop. I don't need to raise money to prove to anybody what others already have.
Oh, and as far as "women dying", that is just smoke in mirrors. Women were not dying in the numbers that are touted before it was legalized anymore than they are now. Check the CDC stats. These "back alley" abortion numbers are a joke. Those illegal abortions were almost entirely done by physicians trained to do it. 95-97% of the abortions performed today are performed as contraception.
To review, pro-life advocates contend that from the earliest stages of development, the unborn are distinct, living, and whole human organisms. They are not parts of larger human beings (like skin cells are), but whole human entities capable of directing their own internal growth and development. Pro-lifers don’t look to theology to tell them these things, but to the science of embryology
Admittedly, science cannot tell us how we should treat unborn humans. It can’t tell us what’s right and what’s wrong. Is it wrong to torture toddlers for fun after beating your wife? Science can’t help you with that question. Nor can it tell us why the unborn human (or for that matter, any human) has a right to life. In short, science alone cannot justify the pro-life position, though it can give us the facts we need to draw moral conclusions on a host of controversial issues, including abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and cloning. Hence, the first step in resolving these issues is to state the proper scientific facts about the biological nature of the unborn entity. As we have seen, those facts are not in dispute: Embryology textbooks uniformly state that human life comes into existence upon completion of fertilization (or after a successful cloning process).
