We're not talking about what people on farms eat or what squirrels do. We are talking about living organisms and when they exist. Biological facts don't have to make sense to you, they are still biological facts.
Yes, but human life and living organisms are not defined by DNA, you've made this argument yourself. Now you want to run back to DNA to support your argument? Wow, talk about desperation time? DNA is Deoxyribonucleic acid, it is a molecule which contains the genetic coding for every living organism and some viruses. The only thing the presence of DNA signifies, is that something is from a living organism or virus. The liver is from a living organism.
Wow, you sure can spin things. Human life and living organisms are not defined by DNA which means DNA can not determine a living human being. That is what I have said all along. As far as “The only thing the presence of DNA signifies, is that something is from a living organism or virus. The liver is from a living organism.” WRONG! The organism could be dead. There is no way a DNA test can determine if the subject is still alive or dead.
As I said before a person doing DNA testing can be given two pieces of human material to run tests on. If two distinct sets of DNA show up that does not mean those samples are from two different people. They could both be from the same person, a chimera. Try to grasp that.
No, a human liver could never "build" anything other than more liver cells. In fact, the liver itself, is incapable of doing this without the host organism, because the liver is not a living organism. You are very confused. Stop watching YouTube videos and pick up a Biology book.
It’s you who needs to put down last century’s biology book and learn. Just like those who declared a woman’s biological children were not her own you are drawing conclusions that are being proved wrong. Watch the video I posted. Learn.
No, there are TWO cells, the egg cell and the sperm sell. When they fuse and begin reproducing cells, they have met the criteria of a unique living organism. That organism is a human being.
And that’s precisely the problem. No one knows if the reproduced cells have the necessary material and/or instructions to become a human being. They can use any criteria they wish but people are not accepting the nonsense that a reproducing cell is just as human as a woman. It’s absurd and outrageous regardless of how someone wishes to classify it.
Try to understand it’s merely human beings making a classification. That’s all it is. It’s like saying 18 is the age of majority. Or 21 is the age of majority. There’s no universal truth involved. 19 and 20 could just as easily be the ages of majority. It’s the same thing with classifying what is and what isn’t a human being. When a fetus is physically connected to a woman and that woman can instruct the genes in the fetus to do certain things such as “grow” or “don’t grow” it stretches credulity to claim said fetus is a separate human being.
I am the one defending the unborn human. I am not taking any "classification system" and doing anything with it. I am taking basic biology and our scientific understanding of living organisms, and trying to educate your stupid ass.
Yes, just like Santorum claiming to be defending a fetus when neither he nor you have a clue. I know you’re talking basic biology and that’s the problem. We’ve progressed and science knows a lot more than your knowledge of basic biology. It’s your ass that requires educating and I mean that quite literally as that’s where your head and, assumedly, your brains are located.
No, you simply aren't. You continue to deny the fetus is even a living organism.
If the definition of an organism is something self-contained that can carry on the processes of life then a fetus isn’t an organism. Of course, one can always prove me wrong by removing it from the woman. A rather simple way to falsify my claim.
But it's not an absurd idea or vile suggestion the "clump of human material" is a living human organism in the state of being, or a human being. You want to keep denying this simple biological fact, in order to bestow upon women, the right to take the life of another human being
Biological fact? It’s a determination made by human beings. People just like you and me. Well, certainly not like me. In any case, it isn’t a “fact”. Try to grasp that. We’ve seen so-called “biological facts” used to mistakenly take a woman’s children. We’ve seen “biological facts” used to force a woman to bear a child in front of government witnesses. So, you know what you can do with your biological facts. The designation and, especially, the use of it is nothing more than a way to humiliate and dehumanize women whether it be shoving instruments in their vagina or placing them on the same level as a clump of cells and you and your Neanderthal buddies will not succeed.
As Old Reilly said the world has changed and he can bet this ass on that. Finally, a Governor, Cuomo, is getting the ball rolling. It’s time to make some changes. Like ObamaCare, it’s time for abortion rights to be shoved down people’s throats. (That term sounds kind of kinky when used within an abortion discussion but I digress.)
Anyway, as Darla said, “Keep pushing.” Pro-choice are starting to push back. After 40 years, enough is enough. Every straw has been grasped at. It’s all been said and done, twice over. But, like Rove, you won’t believe the numbers.
Look, Dix. We don’t want to see another PTED-type occurrence. It appears you’ve finally worked your way through that and I have to say, “Congratulations!” I believe
you sincerely believe what you write about abortion but further research has raised a whole new batch of questions. Check out the video. Also, there’s more discussions on that topic if you want further info. Greater understanding will help you come to a more reasonable conclusion without having to compromise your beliefs because you’ll discover your current beliefs are incorrect. There is no human being.
