After all the venting and stupid rants, is it time to get realistic...

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Even though the left will bitch about the source, lets consider the substance of this article....
what is incorrect about this guys views....
what changes or corrections would you make.....
which of his conclusions are wrong.....
How much of an increase in your real estate tax, per month, would you consider acceptable to make your kids safer at school ?....$5...$10....$20....how much is too much ?

There are now calls from the Left for gun control legislation in response to Adam Lanza's unconscionable mass killing of innocent children at Sandy Hook Elementary. However, very few people seem to be asking the most basic question of all before getting started: What gun control legislation could have stopped Adam Lanza?

The answer is "none."

1) The school was already a "gun free zone;" so obviously that wasn't effective. Of course, the sort of people who would respect a "gun free zone" in the first place are the very ones you wouldn't have to worry about carrying a gun; so it's an almost useless designation.

2) What about closing the supposed "gun show loophole?" Well, since Lanza killed his own mother and used her legally acquired guns for his rampage, making it harder for googly-eyed loners to acquire weapons wouldn't have changed a thing.

3) Some people are calling for a ban on automatic weapons. Setting aside the fact that the regulation of fully automatic weapons is already tighter than Spandex, Adam Lanza didn't use a fully automatic weapon.

4) Then there are calls for the "Assault Weapons Ban" to be reinstated. One problem: the semiautomatic Bushmaster .223 rifle that Lanza used wasn't covered by the bill. So, his mother could have bought that exact same gun with a sheriff looking over her shoulder while the ban was in place.

5) We could, of course, pass a newly updated "Assault Weapons Ban" that covers the semiautomatic Bushmaster .223 rifle. Then, gun manufacturers would try to create weapons that can get around the ban. They would probably be successful. Even if they weren't, it's not as if Lanza was battling Marines. When you're a coward who's attacking unarmed children, any gun will work.

6) We could also ban high-capacity ammunition magazines, but given the 3-5 second reload time, that would have been a minor inconvenience to Adam Lanza at worst. After all, it's not as if a group of small children were going to be able to scamper away or gang up on him during a four second window.

So, what now? Well, let's step into the realm of fantasy and assume that there's no such thing as a 2nd Amendment that provides the public with a Constitutional right to "keep and bear arms." that is every bit as important as the right to free speech and freedom of religion. Let's also pretend that the American public would go along with the following laws and attempts to implement them wouldn't lead to wide scale violence and unrest.
http://townhall.com/columnists/john...urce=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl
 
Here's some more reality: As a source, Townhall sucks and I won't read their crap. If you want to persuade people, you have to use substance and truth as a lure, not horseshit.
 
Even though the left will bitch about the source, lets consider the substance of this article....
what is incorrect about this guys views....
what changes or corrections would you make.....
which of his conclusions are wrong.....
How much of an increase in your real estate tax, per month, would you consider acceptable to make your kids safer at school ?....$5...$10....$20....how much is too much ?

There are now calls from the Left for gun control legislation in response to Adam Lanza's unconscionable mass killing of innocent children at Sandy Hook Elementary. However, very few people seem to be asking the most basic question of all before getting started: What gun control legislation could have stopped Adam Lanza?

The answer is "none."

1) The school was already a "gun free zone;" so obviously that wasn't effective. Of course, the sort of people who would respect a "gun free zone" in the first place are the very ones you wouldn't have to worry about carrying a gun; so it's an almost useless designation.

2) What about closing the supposed "gun show loophole?" Well, since Lanza killed his own mother and used her legally acquired guns for his rampage, making it harder for googly-eyed loners to acquire weapons wouldn't have changed a thing.

3) Some people are calling for a ban on automatic weapons. Setting aside the fact that the regulation of fully automatic weapons is already tighter than Spandex, Adam Lanza didn't use a fully automatic weapon.

4) Then there are calls for the "Assault Weapons Ban" to be reinstated. One problem: the semiautomatic Bushmaster .223 rifle that Lanza used wasn't covered by the bill. So, his mother could have bought that exact same gun with a sheriff looking over her shoulder while the ban was in place.

5) We could, of course, pass a newly updated "Assault Weapons Ban" that covers the semiautomatic Bushmaster .223 rifle. Then, gun manufacturers would try to create weapons that can get around the ban. They would probably be successful. Even if they weren't, it's not as if Lanza was battling Marines. When you're a coward who's attacking unarmed children, any gun will work.

6) We could also ban high-capacity ammunition magazines, but given the 3-5 second reload time, that would have been a minor inconvenience to Adam Lanza at worst. After all, it's not as if a group of small children were going to be able to scamper away or gang up on him during a four second window.

So, what now? Well, let's step into the realm of fantasy and assume that there's no such thing as a 2nd Amendment that provides the public with a Constitutional right to "keep and bear arms." that is every bit as important as the right to free speech and freedom of religion. Let's also pretend that the American public would go along with the following laws and attempts to implement them wouldn't lead to wide scale violence and unrest.
http://townhall.com/columnists/john...urce=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

No guns in homes where there are mentally ill people. Simple solution.

Put on your thinking cap for a moment. :) He tried to buy a gun and was denied. That means HE HAD NO GUN. So, if his wacko mother didn't have any in her house Adam wouldn't have got a gun. Surely even you can follow that reasoning. Or am I asking too much?
 
No guns in homes where there are mentally ill people. Simple solution.

Put on your thinking cap for a moment. :) He tried to buy a gun and was denied. That means HE HAD NO GUN. So, if his wacko mother didn't have any in her house Adam wouldn't have got a gun. Surely even you can follow that reasoning. Or am I asking too much?

Amen brother.
 
Here's some more reality: As a source, Townhall sucks and I won't read their crap. If you want to persuade people, you have to use substance and truth as a lure, not horseshit.

what exactly was not true about what townhall said?

you're too weak to argue points that don't comport to your world view.
 
Is it asking to much too require that guns and ammunition be securely stored so unauthorized people cannot easily get them?

Apparently guntards haven't figured this out, so there has to be a law.

I like the idea of the technology that disables the gun for all but the registered owner. That would at least prevent nutball sons living with their gun-nut mothers from using mom's firearms.
 
" The school was already a "gun free zone;" so obviously that wasn't effective. Of course, the sort of people who would respect a "gun free zone" in the first place are the very ones you wouldn't have to worry about carrying a gun; so it's an almost useless designation."

This point is useless. It's not just about people respecting a gun free zone. It's about a gun free zone being enforced.

Gun free zones are effective all across America, and for the most part, keep guns off of school grounds. There have been many more incidents of guns being used by fellow students than the kind of maniacs we saw last week. It's a very USEFUL designation.

The logic that the answer to gun violence is more guns just doesn't translate well to the majority of Americans.
 
As to the rest of the points listed, the gun nutters still don't seem to get it: this isn't about Lanza. It's about the gun culture in America. It's silly to say that reinstating the ban on assault weapons wouldn't have stopped what happened last week - people don't even equate the two. They just want to ensure that whatever measures we can take to avoid the next incident - where an assault weapon might be used - are taken.

The gun nutters are losing right now, in a big way. The NRA's statement on Friday didn't help them, either.
 
Here's some more reality: As a source, Townhall sucks and I won't read their crap. If you want to persuade people, you have to use substance and truth as a lure, not horseshit.

Gee thanks...thats about what I expected from you...


No guns in homes where there are mentally ill people. Simple solution.

Put on your thinking cap for a moment. :) He tried to buy a gun and was denied. That means HE HAD NO GUN. So, if his wacko mother didn't have any in her house Adam wouldn't have got a gun. Surely even you can follow that reasoning. Or am I asking too much?

How would go about finding all these 'mentally ill' people?....this nuts Mother wasn't mentally ill, she owned the guns legally..

Right! Since 'bad guys' will *always* have guns, we better just arm everyone.
RETARDED

You're being retarded is noted, but irrelevant....how do you prevent "bad guys" from getting guns ?...How do you identify these "bad guys".....


I like the idea of the technology that disables the gun for all but the registered owner. That would at least prevent nutball sons living with their gun-nut mothers from using mom's firearms.

Is it a viable idea ?....Is the technology available ?.....Could the technology be rendered inoperative by a thief ?



Apple did finally have one piece of good advice....
" Put on your thinking cap for a moment."
 
Here's some more reality: As a source, Townhall sucks and I won't read their crap. If you want to persuade people, you have to use substance and truth as a lure, not horseshit.

Closed minded bitch. Good you can exclude yourself from the reasonable conversation. And since you don't own a gun your opinion doesn't matter. Stick to vagina issues
 
No guns in homes where there are mentally ill people. Simple solution.

Put on your thinking cap for a moment. :) He tried to buy a gun and was denied. That means HE HAD NO GUN. So, if his wacko mother didn't have any in her house Adam wouldn't have got a gun. Surely even you can follow that reasoning. Or am I asking too much?

OK no guns in homes of liberals since it is the biggest mental illness goin
 
" The school was already a "gun free zone;" so obviously that wasn't effective. Of course, the sort of people who would respect a "gun free zone" in the first place are the very ones you wouldn't have to worry about carrying a gun; so it's an almost useless designation."

This point is useless. It's not just about people respecting a gun free zone. It's about a gun free zone being enforced.

Gun free zones are effective all across America, and for the most part, keep guns off of school grounds. There have been many more incidents of guns being used by fellow students than the kind of maniacs we saw last week. It's a very USEFUL designation.

The logic that the answer to gun violence is more guns just doesn't translate well to the majority of Americans.


So in the case of CT...how would enforcing that law work....how would it have be effective ? Who would have enforced the law ?
 

Gee thanks...thats about what I expected from you...




How would go about finding all these 'mentally ill' people?....this nuts Mother wasn't mentally ill, she owned the guns legally..



You're being retarded is noted, but irrelevant....how do you prevent "bad guys" from getting guns ?...How do you identify these "bad guys".....




Is it a viable idea ?....Is the technology available ?.....Could the technology be rendered inoperative by a thief ?



Apple did finally have one piece of good advice....
" Put on your thinking cap for a moment."

Shut up, gun-whacko. No one's really interested in any of the so-called 'solutions' by the guntards, since their primary concern is to hold onto their guns.
 
So in the case of CT...how would enforcing that law work....how would it have be effective ? Who would have enforced the law ?

Don't make the mistake Boner is making. The left is not concerned about child safety. They didn't care that the ATF and FBI killed children at Waco and Ruby Ridge. They just see this as their opening since 1994. They are feral, vile beasts and must not be negotiated with but defeated.

Fuck liberals. They will not ever get my guns. The things they have been saying post Sandy Hook is the reason the 2nd Amendment is in place to begin with
 
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