America will tilt left for years to come

Rune said:
Some things are so obvious they don't deserve rebutal
but go ahead Onceler band wagon with your buddies if it helps you get through.
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You have lost the ability to think independently. It's a shame. I don't "band" with anyone. But when it comes to the national debt - how can you absolve Democrats so quickly of responsibility? Again - they have controlled the purse strings for the most part. They're responsible for the runaway entitlement programs, for policies unfriendly to small business, for taxes that push companies abroad & for the lion's share of fiscal irresponsibility that has gotten us to this point.

I can't imagine what kind of blinders someone has to have on to not see that. Aside from Clinton's 2nd term - when Gingrich forced his hand - when have Democrats ever tried to be fiscally responsible?
 
Rune said:
I really wonder what I used to see in you.
By the way, the only candidate more dangerous than Jeb was Rubio.
Where do you come up with this bullshit?
Even Kasich is a run of the mill, anti-middle class garden variety GOP liar.
Bernie was our only real chance.
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Our only real chance for what? I loved listening to Bernie, but his programs would have cost $10 trillion.

You'll keep your head in the sand until it's too late. I don't consider you to be a progressive, because your ignorance of the debt blinds you to what its ramifications will be for every progressive program and policy. The poor & disadvantaged will suffer disproportionately when the debt crisis comes to a head.
 
the economy does better under Democratic terms


you guys on the right increase the debt more idiot


you are not part of any middle if you are employing right wing lies in your outlook
 
Thing1 said:
I don't think primary voters have really thought this through. They're voting to stick it to the GOP & the system, but that "statement" will have ramifications for a long, long time.

Trump simply can't win a general election. This is setting up to be just like the Goldwater election, and chances are that Republicans will lose the Senate also. It's a disaster for conservatism.

What this means in practical terms is a Supreme Court that will tilt left for decades, and little to no action on the debt crisis. Nothing will change in the next 4 years.

Such a drag. Hillary is a weak candidate, but she'll beat Trump handily, with as little enthusiasm from most voters as we've seen in years. And the GOP had very good candidates to choose from. They blew it.
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You seem real heartbroken about it all. Not as much as GayRod and Mott but I sense serious butt hurt over it
 
evince said:
the economy does better under Democratic terms


you guys on the right increase the debt more idiot


you are not part of any middle if you are employing right wing lies in your outlook
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You're not part of any middle at all. You're a left-wing hack.

Like I said - my dog could have been Prez in the '90s and the economy would have flourished. I give Clinton credit for staying out of the way.
 
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Just curious - at what point was Congress controlled by the Democrat party during the last 20 years?

Apart from a brief spell in 2007-2011, I'm not seeing any dominance by the Dems.

What am I missing?
 
nope Im left wing


I never claimed the middle


if you are using the right wing lie propaganda you are not in the middle



you are rightwing



I use facts to defend my positions
 
Rune said:
Which number is wrong?
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Your Bush numbers and your Obama numbers. If you're going to emphatically call someone out for being wrong at least come with facts to back it up. Not incorrect info off the top of your head.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Easy. Raise taxes. Those issues are not insurmountable. They just take political will and leadership. Something we haven't seen coming out of DC in a long time.
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what sense does it make to raise taxes when wages are just starting to go up a little? is it the democrat objective to keep the middle and lower classes from prosperity?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
what sense does it make to raise taxes when wages are just starting to go up a little? is it the democrat objective to keep the middle and lower classes from prosperity?
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Exactly.

I always see the same thing w/ Social Security, except w/ that, they call tax hikes "tweaks."

Raising taxes is never an answer. It's an acknowledgment that you don't have an answer.
 
Thing1 said:
Exactly.

I always see the same thing w/ Social Security, except w/ that, they call tax hikes "tweaks."

Raising taxes is never an answer. It's an acknowledgment that you don't have an answer.
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so the cost of things NEVER go up?
 
SEC Votes for Final Rules Defining How Banks Can Be Securities Brokers

Eight Years After Passage of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, Key Provisions Will Now Be Implemented

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2007 - Ending eight years of stalled negotiations and impasse, the Commission today voted to adopt, jointly with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (Board), new rules that will finally implement the bank broker provisions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999. The Board will consider these final rules at its Sept. 24, 2007 meeting. The Commission and the Board consulted with and sought the concurrence of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and Office of Thrift Supervision.

In addition, the Commission also voted to issue a second release concerning certain bank dealer activities and other related matters.

"A customer should be able to walk into a financial institution and get any financial product he or she needs — securities, insurance, banking or trust services," said SEC Chairman Christopher Cox. "But Congress recognized those benefits couldn't be achieved without new ways to safeguard investors that would be consistent with continued innovation. Today's historic action, coming eight years after the passage of the law, is long overdue but welcome news for investors who will now begin to see the benefits of broader services and lower costs that the law intended."
 
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