Andrea Yates Trial
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Brent
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LadyT said:
Life in prison would be acceptable.
However, according to Texas standards, she is NOT mentally ill. I do not think she deserves to be in an institute. One of my friends works in an institute, and it is the lap of luxury. Yates does not deserve this. She deserves life in a dingy prison, or preferably, the death penalty.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
I agree.LadyT said:
Although most psychologists prefer not to use the archaic word "insane" any longer, there really is something to the concept of someone so mentally ill that they can't be held accountable to the same standards as everyone else. I have no idea whether Andrea Yates really falls into that category, of course, but then neither does Brent.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
Only people with a conscience, Brent.Brent said:
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
I think that's probably right. It can't be easy to convince a jury that your client really isn't sane any longer. Especially not in Texas.Damocles said:
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
This may well be the most outrageous thing you've ever posted, B. And that is saying something.Brent said:Do have any idea of how luxurious a psych ward is? At least in California, Oregon and Washington, these wards are like 5-star hotels, except the service is even better.Do you think Yates deserves a 5-star hotel? I don't.
Brent said:Do have any idea of how luxurious a psych ward is? At least in California, Oregon and Washington, these wards are like 5-star hotels, except the service is even better.
The state would not be putting her up at a 5 star resort... That's a strawman. And I used to volunteer at the psych ward at Bethesda when I was stationed in Maryland... It ws no 5-star hotel. Methinks there are extremely few that are like that as there are few who could afford it.
Brent
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Damocles said:
How long ago was that? Perhaps the wards in Texas are just as bad. But if they're ANYTHING like the ones in CA, OR, or WA, I strongly favor puting her in prison instead. For your information, the place my friend works at is FREE for anyone who happens to be a sexually-violent, menally-ill criminal.
Brent said:
Having TV isn't something they'd be doing without in Prison... And if I had my druthers all "reason of insanities" would go to a special state-run psych ward built for those types...
I don't think that one should be innocent because of insanity, just punished differently. People in prison deserve to have reasonable protection from the insane. That goes in the Cruel and Unusual portion of the constitution.
Dear Bdw,
I believe you are wrong in your thinking, especially if you think you are following God's Law....
When you read his laws, like in Exodus, In every manner God's Laws that were concerned with harm, physical or civil, done against another man, they were laws of justice....
What I mean is, paraphrased, is that every punishment was levied based on intentional harm or knowledge of potential harm and being negligent...
I guess what I am saying is that punishment is relevent to the intent...like if your ox kills another man's ox in a fight, then it is not your fault because it was a natural accident and the Law says that what you are to do is give the man his ox back to sell his ox "parts", or meat and collect the money for it to buy another one.
But if your Ox had been known to be wild, and had killed another animal beforehand, and the owner took NO PRECAUTION with this ox, and this ox killed another man's ox, then the owner of the wild ox was held accountable through the law and made to kill his own ox and return both to the other man...to sell for money for the meat etc.... or SOMETHING like that....
And if a man killed another man by accident then God told him to run in to the dessert so not to be put to death until God could come to his rescue...I think?
So, I guess what I am saying, is that if Andrea Yates is and was really insane, at the time of the murders, which I whole heartedly believe from all that I have read on the case, then she should NOT BE PUT TO DEATH, according to God's Law imo and you are doing a disservice to Judeo/ Christian values by taking this stance of yours, in my very humble opinion.
care
I believe you are wrong in your thinking, especially if you think you are following God's Law....
When you read his laws, like in Exodus, In every manner God's Laws that were concerned with harm, physical or civil, done against another man, they were laws of justice....
What I mean is, paraphrased, is that every punishment was levied based on intentional harm or knowledge of potential harm and being negligent...
I guess what I am saying is that punishment is relevent to the intent...like if your ox kills another man's ox in a fight, then it is not your fault because it was a natural accident and the Law says that what you are to do is give the man his ox back to sell his ox "parts", or meat and collect the money for it to buy another one.
But if your Ox had been known to be wild, and had killed another animal beforehand, and the owner took NO PRECAUTION with this ox, and this ox killed another man's ox, then the owner of the wild ox was held accountable through the law and made to kill his own ox and return both to the other man...to sell for money for the meat etc.... or SOMETHING like that....
And if a man killed another man by accident then God told him to run in to the dessert so not to be put to death until God could come to his rescue...I think?
So, I guess what I am saying, is that if Andrea Yates is and was really insane, at the time of the murders, which I whole heartedly believe from all that I have read on the case, then she should NOT BE PUT TO DEATH, according to God's Law imo and you are doing a disservice to Judeo/ Christian values by taking this stance of yours, in my very humble opinion.
care
robdastud
Junior Member
Brent said:Do have any idea of how luxurious a psych ward is? At least in California, Oregon and Washington, these wards are like 5-star hotels, except the service is even better.
Brent don't be a moron, an institution is no "luxury" lol