Article: Markets Getting Worse as Obama Lead Widens

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To be fair the markets don't seem to fond of McCain (and the author is no fan of McCain) either but Obama certainly seems to be the bigger worry. And for good reason, read bolded parts below:

"Barack Obama has remained cool and confident amid the financial melt down, even as John McCain at times has been embarrassing, lurching from one proposal to the next. But while the polls are reflecting Obama's steady hand, the markets haven't. In fact, they're getting worse by the day as Obama's lead widens.

Most investors know the devil is in the details - and the details of Obama's economic plans are anything but reassuring.

Of course, the market turmoil is first a reflection of grim reality - the bursting of the housing bubble and the billions upon billions in writedowns and losses that have forced upon the hugely leveraged financial firms companies that had cranked big profits during the bubble years.

The resulting credit crunch is hitting Main Street harder than ever before. The country is headed for recession; the only question is: Just how low can the markets and economy go?

It could be a lot lower - it all depends on the policies of the next president.

And, as it looks increasingly likely that Obama will be that man, the markets are casting a vote of "no confidence."

To be fair, McCain hardly instills confidence among the Wall Streeters I speak to. Why has his campaign spent the last week focusing on Obama's friendship with former terrorist William Ayers - when it should be hitting Obama's blind loyalty to policies that bring together the worst elements of Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter?

Recently, Obama said he wants to expedite loans to small businesses, so he seems to have a clue that they produce much of the country's job growth. Yet his income-tax hike on upper brackets will hit vast numbers of small businesses - they'd face the highest rates they've seen in decades.

Overall, his plan includes some of the most lethal tax increases imaginable, including a jump in the capital-gains rate. He'd expand government spending massively, with everything from new public-works projects to increases in foreign aid to a surge in Afghanistan - plus hand out a token $500 welfare check that he calls a tax cut to everyone else."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/an_obama_panic__133374.htm
 
The author seems to have Dano's lack of ability to identify or even care about causation.

The markets right now have absolutely zero to do with Obama; that's the most absurd claim I've read...well, since some of Dixie's stuff yesterday, at least....
 
So that's why the markets are going crazy.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone if Mr Obamas just stepped down and let the markets recover? Where is his sense of responsibility?
 
So that's why the markets are going crazy.

Wouldn't it be better for everyone if Mr Obamas just stepped down and let the markets recover? Where is his sense of responsibility?
I don't know charver, it's a travesty. Truly a travesty. First rule 36 gets him in the lawsuit, and now this. I don't know how he can withstand it.
 
To be fair the markets don't seem to fond of McCain (and the author is no fan of McCain) either but Obama certainly seems to be the bigger worry. And for good reason, read bolded parts below:

"Barack Obama has remained cool and confident amid the financial melt down, even as John McCain at times has been embarrassing, lurching from one proposal to the next. But while the polls are reflecting Obama's steady hand, the markets haven't. In fact, they're getting worse by the day as Obama's lead widens.

Most investors know the devil is in the details - and the details of Obama's economic plans are anything but reassuring.

Of course, the market turmoil is first a reflection of grim reality - the bursting of the housing bubble and the billions upon billions in writedowns and losses that have forced upon the hugely leveraged financial firms companies that had cranked big profits during the bubble years.

The resulting credit crunch is hitting Main Street harder than ever before. The country is headed for recession; the only question is: Just how low can the markets and economy go?

It could be a lot lower - it all depends on the policies of the next president.

And, as it looks increasingly likely that Obama will be that man, the markets are casting a vote of "no confidence."

To be fair, McCain hardly instills confidence among the Wall Streeters I speak to. Why has his campaign spent the last week focusing on Obama's friendship with former terrorist William Ayers - when it should be hitting Obama's blind loyalty to policies that bring together the worst elements of Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter?

Recently, Obama said he wants to expedite loans to small businesses, so he seems to have a clue that they produce much of the country's job growth. Yet his income-tax hike on upper brackets will hit vast numbers of small businesses - they'd face the highest rates they've seen in decades.

Overall, his plan includes some of the most lethal tax increases imaginable, including a jump in the capital-gains rate. He'd expand government spending massively, with everything from new public-works projects to increases in foreign aid to a surge in Afghanistan - plus hand out a token $500 welfare check that he calls a tax cut to everyone else."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10132008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/an_obama_panic__133374.htm

The market action today has little if anything to do with who is going to be President. This has far more to do with the fundamental strength of the world economy and the testing of technical levels on the US exchanges.
 
The market action today has little if anything to do with who is going to be President. This has far more to do with the fundamental strength of the world economy and the testing of technical levels on the US exchanges.

Oh come off it SF. That sounds far too simple an explanation.

I know for a fact that a picture of Obama was shown on Japanese tv, earlier today, and within 3 seconds their stock market dropped by 8%.
 
Oh come off it SF. That sounds far too simple an explanation.

I know for a fact that a picture of Obama was shown on Japanese tv, earlier today, and within 3 seconds their stock market dropped by 8%.

I stand corrected good sir. da big black man scareth the lil ones in Japan mighty fiercely. That is a far better explanation.

:)
 
Every time Bush or Paulson speak the market drops 300 pts
That's because the news agencies always contrast them with a picture of Obama. You can't get away from it. As his popularity rises, the market tumbles. It's all Obama's fault!

:D This is fun.
 
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The market action today has little if anything to do with who is going to be President. This has far more to do with the fundamental strength of the world economy and the testing of technical levels on the US exchanges.
I actually agree it has little, I think the author went quite a bit too far but there is no question that his policies of high taxation and high spending are going to be a negative.

And specifically to you, there is no question that the capital gains tax increases Obama has proposed would affect the market and your own business in an undeniably negative way. I've heard many economists call capital gains taxes, the stupidest taxes (well in a more polite way).
 
I actually agree it has little, I think the author went quite a bit too far but there is no question that his policies of high taxation and high spending are going to be a negative.

And specifically to you, there is no question that the capital gains tax increases Obama has proposed would affect the market and your own business in an undeniably negative way. I've heard many economists call capital gains taxes, the stupidest taxes (well in a more polite way).

Yes, the capital gains tax increase would be a negative, both for the market as well as for federal income tax revenues. That said, this market volatility we are seeing right now has little to do with potential cap gains tax increases.
 
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