BBC: MLK Video, "I see a black President within 40 years."

wtf? so now hes not black in America? picky picky people. Its like the irish organized crime in boston.. if your only half irish your a halfbreed.
 
Most blacks in America are not "pure blood" black.

Hopefully we will all be some shade of brown in a hundred years or so and can be prejudiced on something really important like hair color .
 
evince said:
Facts are facts the man is half black.

Im very proud of my country and my president.
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Eminem has more black conciousness than Obama.

I wasn't talking about the color of his skin .. and by the way, there are no half people.

If Obama wasn't the president, he'd be just another black (skin) man.

I applaud the thought Americans are celebrating, not the man.
 
blackascoal said:
Eminem has more black conciousness than Obama.
I wasn't talking about the color of his skin .. and by the way, there are no half people.

If Obama wasn't the president, he'd be just another black (skin) man.

I applaud the thought Americans are celebrating, not the man.
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really...the real slim shady? what exactly is black conciousness and does this conciousness define everyone who is black or like slim shady?
 
Yurt said:
really...the real slim shady? what exactly is black conciousness and does this conciousness define everyone who is black or like slim shady?
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Black Consciuosness is often attributed to South African freedom fighter Steve Biko, but it has been around since the days of slavery in America and was originally defined by Harriet Tubman who said, "I freed a thousand slaves and I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

You could only tell those who possessed a black consciousness that Harriet Tubman was coming. I would not tell Barack Obama that Harriet Tubman was coming in fear that he would turn her in.

Tubman, even then did not confine her interpretation of a black consciousness to black people .. "Quakers almost as good as colored. They call themselves friends and you can trust them every time."

It is the understanding of the evil of oppression and the understanding of the evil men do.

Case in point .. African-Americans never supported the invasion of Iraq even when it was popular to do so. Had America followed the lead of black Americans this nation would be a lot better off .. and a hell of a lot of Iraqis would still be alive.

It is empathy and an affinity for oppressed people wherever and whomever they are.

African-Americans have a far different perspective of the Israel/Palestine conflict than does white America.

It is a far more critical view of politics and politicians and policies than many others may have.
 
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QUOTE=blackascoal;388302]Black Consciuosness is often attributed to South African freedom fighter Steve Biko, but it has been around since the days of slavery in America and was originally defined by Harriet Tubman who said, "I freed a thousand slaves and I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

You could only tell those who possessed a black consciousness that Harriet Tubman was coming. I would not tell Barack Obama that Harriet Tubman was coming in fear that he would turn her in.
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interesting pov

Tubman, even then did not confine her interpretation of a black consciousness to black people .. "Quakers almost as good as colored. They call themselves friends and you can trust them every time."
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superiority complex? wouldn't be racist would it? what if the word colored was switched to white....

It is the understanding of the evil of oppression and the understanding of the evil men do.

Case in point .. African-Americans never supported the invasion of Iraq even when it was popular to do so. Had America followed the lead of black Americans this nation would be a lot better off .. and a hell of a lot of Iraqis would still be alive.
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i highly doubt every black person was against the invasion...such generalizing only puts people into predefined boxes.

It is empathy and an affinity for oppressed people wherever and whomever they are.
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african americans do not have the patent on this and you know it.

African-Americans have a far different perspective of the Israel/Palestine conflict than does white America.

It is a far more critical view of politics and politicians and policies than many others may have.
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in my opinion, you generalize too much and do not accept the fact that black people do not hold a patent to the ideas you claim are "black conciousness."
 
Yurt said:
interesting pov

superiority complex? wouldn't be racist would it? what if the word colored was switched to white....
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It's simple .. you don't understand her meaning of "good." .. However, surely you SHOULD be able to understand the horror and oppression she lived in and put her words in context .. but maybe not.

i highly doubt every black person was against the invasion...such generalizing only puts people into predefined boxes.
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White people like country music. Does that, in your mind, infer that ALL white people like country music?

Hispanics like mariachi music. Doers that mean all do?

Asians are good at math. Does that mean ALL Asians are good at math?

As a group, African Americans did not support the invasion of Iraq.

Find a real argument.

african americans do not have the patent on this and you know it.
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Find a real argument .. and if you took the time to actually read what was said you'd be able to figre it out all by yourself.

in my opinion, you generalize too much and do not accept the fact that black people do not hold a patent to the ideas you claim are "black conciousness."
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This from someone who constantly talks about white men.

Find an argument.
 
blackascoal said:
Black Consciuosness is often attributed to South African freedom fighter Steve Biko, but it has been around since the days of slavery in America and was originally defined by Harriet Tubman who said, "I freed a thousand slaves and I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

You could only tell those who possessed a black consciousness that Harriet Tubman was coming. I would not tell Barack Obama that Harriet Tubman was coming in fear that he would turn her in.

Tubman, even then did not confine her interpretation of a black consciousness to black people .. "Quakers almost as good as colored. They call themselves friends and you can trust them every time."

It is the understanding of the evil of oppression and the understanding of the evil men do.

Case in point .. African-Americans never supported the invasion of Iraq even when it was popular to do so. Had America followed the lead of black Americans this nation would be a lot better off .. and a hell of a lot of Iraqis would still be alive.

It is empathy and an affinity for oppressed people wherever and whomever they are.

African-Americans have a far different perspective of the Israel/Palestine conflict than does white America.

It is a far more critical view of politics and politicians and policies than many others may have.
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The old continuation of "you ain't black enough".

You talk like a white person - "you ain't black enough"

You get good grades in school - "you ain't black enough"

You date white men/women - "you ain't black enough"

Now with Obama not fetching BAC's bail o' cotton "He ain't black enough"

You think he is not conscious that he is a black man? How can that be? I don't know anyone that has lived in America that is black that is not conscious of their blackness. But because Obama won't put forth a socialist program of wealth redistribution and who knows what else, "He ain't black enough"
 
Socrtease said:
The old continuation of "you ain't black enough".

You talk like a white person - "you ain't black enough"

You get good grades in school - "you ain't black enough"

You date white men/women - "you ain't black enough"

Now with Obama not fetching BAC's bail o' cotton "He ain't black enough"

You think he is not conscious that he is a black man? How can that be? I don't know anyone that has lived in America that is black that is not conscious of their blackness. But because Obama won't put forth a socialist program of wealth redistribution and who knows what else, "He ain't black enough"
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Obviously you hang around a lot of racist white people .. because the white people I hang with don't say shit like that.

Additionally, what in the hell makes you think YOU should be the judge of what I think another black person's commitment to black issues should be? From whince are you granted such authority?

Obama KNOWS the injustice of the criminal system and he KNOWS how racist it is. Do you think he's going to do anything about it?

Of course he isn't .. so what in the hell are you talking about?

Clarence Thomas has black skin .. do you think he has a black consciousness? According to you all that is required is black skin.

I never said "he isn't black enough", I said he has no black consciousness and will not address issues important to the black community.

I said there is no comparison, other than skin color, between Dr. King and a slick Chicago politician.

I said I would not tell Obama that Harriet Tubman was coming, nor would I tell him where Steve Biko was hiding.

Dude, if you don't get it .. that's cool. It's not about you.
 
That's right - its about me, people!

And I have self-deputized myself to have the authority to speak about and understand these things!

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