Clarence Thomas & Yale Law School

ThatOwlWoman said:
Reminds me of Ryan and how he and his family benefited from social security when he was coming up, yet he wanted to dismantle the whole thing for other people.

This has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with RW selfish, me-first users who don't want to share.
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FWIW, in 2020 California voted against affirmative action - again. This is a state that Biden won by 30% so either a lot of right wingers voted for Biden or many Biden voters voted against AA.

For starters the Asian population in California is like 15% of the state. At least in California they tend to lean very Democratic but at the same there are a good number against AA. California is also only half white, if that. So even if all white people voted against AA, which they didn’t, there were still P.O.C. voting against it.

There are also black people against AA who aren’t politically conservative. So we’ll clearly see more support on the left for AA than on the right, but not all people on the left support it. Far from it.
 
cawacko said:
FWIW, in 2020 California voted against affirmative action - again. This is a state that Biden won by 30% so either a lot of right wingers voted for Biden or many Biden voters voted against AA.

For starters the Asian population in California is like 15% of the state. At least in California they tend to lean very Democratic but at the same there are a good number against AA. California is also only half white, if that. So even if all white people voted against AA, which they didn’t, there were still P.O.C. voting against it.

There are also black people against AA who aren’t politically conservative. So we’ll clearly see more support on the left for AA than on the right, but not all people on the left support it. Far from it.
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That's nice, thanks. My point was that it is hypocritical, to say the least, and unethical as well, to benefit from a government program, then want to deny the same benefit to those coming up behind you. It's especially heinous if you have the actual power to do so.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That's nice, thanks. My point was that it is hypocritical, to say the least, and unethical as well, to benefit from a government program, then want to deny the same benefit to those coming up behind you. It's especially heinous if you have the actual power to do so.
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I actually don’t know his backstory in that regard. Was he not qualified and got accepted because of AA? Or was he qualified but because of racial discrimination wouldn’t have been allowed in law school if it weren’t for AA? Because if it’s the latter, we’ve thankfully eliminated that.

And judges clearly have more power than us as individuals but in California at least we have ballot measures that if passed are law, so how we vote on an issue like AA is the equivalent of being a law maker.
 
cawacko said:
I actually don’t know his backstory in that regard. Was he not qualified and got accepted because of AA? Or was he qualified but because of racial discrimination wouldn’t have been allowed in law school if it weren’t for AA? Because if it’s the latter, we’ve thankfully eliminated that.

And judges clearly have more power than us as individuals but in California at least we have ballot measures that if passed are law, so how we vote on an issue like AA is the equivalent of being a law maker.
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We had that alleged power back in Missouri, too. But each time the citizens voted for a ballot measure/constitution change, the (R) legislators quickly got rid of it. Examples: Anti-Puppy Mill was neutered by the Repukes. Ditto for raising the minimum wage -- just ask KC and St. Louis how THAT went: the Repukes passed a bill saying no one but the state could change minimum wage laws. Medicaid expansion and now rec MJ -- both under fire from the Republicans.

But yeah, you all are all about "freedom." :laugh:
 
Cypress said:
Clarence Thomas was admitted to Yale Law School in 1971 as part of an aggressive affirmative-action program


THERE is something unseemly about a guy who has just built a house on the beach and is now leading the charge to stop all further beach-front construction.

Or a recent immigrant who climbs the soapbox to call for a halt to further immigration.

Or a beneficiary of affirmative-action programs who climbs the ladder of success by attacking affirmative action.

As an undergraduate at Holy Cross College, Thomas received a scholarship set aside for racial minorities. He was admitted to Yale Law School in 1971 as part of an aggressive (and successful) affirmative-action program with a clear goal: 10 percent minority enrollment. Yale offered him generous financial aid.

Thomas cast the deciding vote in the Supreme Court's 5-to-4 decision to narrow federal affirmative-action programs. But Thomas went beyond even fellow conservatives on the bench - he argued for an immediate end to affirmative action.

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19950626&slug=2128294
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Loaded with irony in light of this week's SCOTUS vote
 
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