Donald Trump's Pathways to a Third Term

Tbird19482 said:
I didn't but I can see it.
Musk will try and get every cent he can out of the American taxpayer.
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Trump and Chancellor Musk are removing money from the pockets of US taxpayer and US government workers and putting it into their own pockets.

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Nasa cuts raise fears of handing more influence to SpaceX owner Musk

Fired workers warn cuts including closing of two offices will undermine agency work and increase costs
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The Trump administration’s decision to shutter two offices at Nasa risks “dramatically” increasing the costs of space exploration, while handing Elon Musk more influence over the agency, fired workers have warned.

Nasa’s office of technology, policy and strategy and office of the chief scientist provide independent analysis on key investments and strategies. Both are set to close, amid widespread cuts at the agency.

Workers inside the two offices told the Guardian these cuts would undermine the ongoing goals of manned missions to the moon and Mars – and raise questions over conflicts of interest for Musk, who remains CEO of SpaceX, the rocket and satellite giant, while leading the so-called “department of government efficiency”, or Doge, which has led the charge to cut back the federal government under Donald Trump.
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The US president has nominated the billionaire Jared Isaacman, a SpaceX investor and close ally of Musk, to become Nasa’s next administrator


Elon Musk’s Mission to Take Over NASA—and Mars​

The billionaire is in position to speed up plans for a voyage to the planet, with a potentially huge impact on SpaceX​

After spending months and more than $250 million campaigning to elect President Trump, Elon Musk made a call late last year to help roll out his plan for humanity’s path beyond Earth.

He reached his friend Jared Isaacman with a request: Would Isaacman become the head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration? He told Isaacman, the payments entrepreneur who has flown to orbit with SpaceX and invested in the company, that they could make NASA great again and work toward their shared ambition of getting humans to Mars, according to people briefed on the conversation.

Soon after the call, Trump announced Isaacman’s appointment.

Musk, the world’s richest man and now a top adviser to the president, has extraordinary influence on budgets, personnel and technology systems across federal agencies, including the Federal Aviation Administration, which regulates commercial spaceflights at SpaceX, Musk’s rocket and satellite-internet company.

Through the new Department of Government Efficiency, Musk has cut budgets, laid off staff and ditched programs. He also has DOGE employees reviewing the operations and personnel of agencies that have investigated Musk’s companies, including the Federal Trade Commission and Environmental Protection Agency.

It is at NASA, though, where Musk is making the biggest shift in an agency’s priorities to align them with his own—both financially and personally.

He is working to recast its programs, reallocate federal spending and install loyalists to aid his decadeslong goal of sending people to Mars.

He has also worked to win backing from Trump by telling the president that getting people to Mars would shine his legacy as a “president of firsts,” according to people briefed on the conversations.

The ambition could have a potentially huge impact on SpaceX, which has emerged as the dominant space technology and operations company globally and is already one of NASA’s biggest contractors.
 
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NASA Signs Contract for Elon Musk's Starship, Even Though It's Never Launched Without Exploding

NASA has officially added SpaceX's Starship to its launch vehicle roster despite the vehicle never having completed a successful test flight.
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NASA Signs Contract for Elon Musk's Starship, Even Though It's Never Launched Without Exploding​

"I'm sure whenever NASA needs a payload spread across 1000 km of ocean they'll pick Starship."​

NASA has officially added SpaceX's enormous Starship rocket to its roster — despite the vehicle never having completed a single successful test flight, let alone a mission.

The space agency announced last week that it had awarded SpaceX a "modification under the NASA Launch Services (NLS) II contract to add Starship to their existing Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launch service offerings."

As the agency explains, these contracts "provide a broad range of commercial launch services for NASA’s planetary, Earth-observing, exploration, and scientific satellites."

The news shouldn't come as a surprise at this point given SpaceX CEO Elon Musk's growing influence in the White House. His space company has made moves to take over key positions at the agency, highlighting Musk's glaring conflict of interest.

Even Jared Isaacman, who's expected to be sworn in as NASA's next administrator soon, has a long history with SpaceX....

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Nordberg said:
Trump figures the laws do not apply to him. He is showing he thinks the Constitution has no meaning to him, assuming he has ever read it.
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Yep. Yet the MAGATs still slavishly worship and support him, despite the utter contempt he shows for rule of law, the Constitution, our institutions, and for common decency of which he has none.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
For all of our sakes I sure hope that you're right.
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realistically, at a minimum, he's got to get SecDef and all of the joint chiefs to agree, followed by all the commanders of each branch. Add in DHS and all of the corresponding agents and entities in every one of those mentioned.................it's way too many to agree, and then there's the population to consider. I've got better odds of hooking up with Ariana Grande, Jenna Ortega, and AOC all at the same time than for any of the above to happen
 
Earl said:
Asked if wanted a third term, Trump replied: "I like working."

"I'm not joking. But I'm not—it is far too early to think about it."

"There are methods [by] which you could do it," he later added.

What People Are Saying​

Stephen Gillers, a law professor at New York University, told Newsweek that there are a number of methods by which Trump could seek another term, using the assistance of Vice President JD Vance.


1. The Vance Presidency​

"Trump can be nominated as vice president with Vance nominated to be president, Gillers said. "If the Vance-Trump ticket wins, Vance resigns and Trump becomes president. He then chooses Vance to be his vice president. The Senate would have to confirm Vance," he added.

"There is one possible problem with this tactic. The last sentence of the 12th amendment says: 'But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States,'" Gillers said.

"However, it was written long before the 22nd amendment's two-term limit and probably refers to [minimum] age, 35 years old, and citizenship, naturally born in the U.S., which were and are the constitutional eligibility requirements.

"Further, the 22nd amendment prohibits Trump from 'being elected' president more than twice. But in this sequence, Trump is not being 'elected' president, but vice president."


2. The President/Vice President Resignation​

"The second workaround is this: Vance runs for president and someone else is on the ticket for vice president, maybe Don Jr. They win. Don Jr. quits and Vance picks Trump to be vice president with Senate confirmation," Gillers said.

"So Trump is not 'elected' to anything, not even vice president. Then Vance quits, Trump becomes president, though not through election. He chooses Vance as his vice president with Senate confirmation."

Gillers stressed that he is "just identifying these paths, not endorsing them."

3. A Constitutional Amendment​

Trump could seek to change the U.S. Constitution's ban on a third presidential term.


According to the Office of the Federal Register, "an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures."

Former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani told Newsweek: "Politically, Trump doesn't have the votes to repeal the 22nd Amendment, either in Congress or the states."

What Happens Next​

Trump said in his NBC interview that he is focused on his current presidential term and that it is too early to decide if he will seek a third term.

However, he was familiar with the method by which Vance could be elected president and resign to make way for Trump.
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All of those whatever they are aren’t happening. Why would Vance step aside, the Don Jr route is just as inane, and Trump could never get sixty votes in the Senate

Much more plausible is that Trump just refuses to leave. In 2020, after an election he substantially lost, and with just three months planning, look at the unprecedented extremes he went to maintain power. Now think what he could do with four years to prepare, he didn’t dump all the IG’s and change top leadership in the military for nothing
 
SmarterthanYou said:
what idiocy.

the ONLY way trump gets more than 8 years is getting rid of the 22nd Amendment. Trump cannot become VP ever.

I don't know what moron thinks this is possible, but it's not.
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Or ignore it, certainly no one in the Red Hat Club, GOP, SCOTUS, or right wing media is going to argue it, in facf, they will all support him
 
Nordberg said:
Not at all. Trump cannot run again. It is in the Constitution. We are laughing at the stupidity of Trump and his followers. You guys are so conned that you believe whatever Trump says. You will never figure it out. How sad you are.
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What does being in the Constitution have to do with it?

If he were to go there, no matter what he did, the cult, GOP, SCOTUS, and the right wing media will not only support him but in fact defend him regardless of what he did. Trump knows this
 
archives said:
Or ignore it, certainly no one in the Red Hat Club, GOP, SCOTUS, or right wing media is going to argue it, in facf, they will all support him
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1. you're completely delusional
2. how would ignoring the 22nd work, in your mind?
3. On the extremely small chance that SOME red states might try the idiot move of ignoring it, see my reply to owlwoman
 
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