Dragging death of Linda Frickey

Phantasmal said:
I do not support the death penalty. I prefer the murderers spend their lives regretting their decisions that put them in a cage for life. I would require pictures of their victims to be hung in their cells.
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I prefer what ever punishment the victim's family prefers life in prison or the death penalty.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Execution is punishment.

Preceding a lethal injection with anesthesia
changes execution to euthanasia
which isn't painful and isn't punishment.

It's what we do to beloved pets when they're hopelessly ill
and it's what we should have access to for ourselves when we have no quality of life remaining.

Isn't euthanizing our non-rehabilitatable criminally insane far better than keeping them in a cage
until they die of natural causes or are killed by other inmates?

People who drag somebody to death need to be euthanized for the expediency of society at large,
and it's not a cruel thing to do as execution would be.
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Lethal injection ALWAYS uses anesthesia. They used to use Sodium Pentothal. I have done thousands of inductions using Sodium Pentothal.
 
Phantasmal said:
I do not support the death penalty. I prefer the murderers spend their lives regretting their decisions that put them in a cage for life. I would require pictures of their victims to be hung in their cells.
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To me, that's Draconian.

First of all, execution is a penalty. Euthanasia, in contrast, is not punishment. It's humane.

More importantly than even that,
people who commit viscous crimes cannot possibly be sane.

I don't believe in punishing people for being sick.

I do believe in excising them for the expediency of society.

I have no use for biblical concepts of guilt as I'm not afflicted with religious superstition.

Above all of this, however, I go mad over people not recognizing the nuance between execution and euthanasia.
I reject the idea that any such person is operating at normal human intellectual efficiency.
People so debilitated also need to be humanely euthanized, don't you agree?
 
Phantasmal said:
I do not support the death penalty. I prefer the murderers spend their lives regretting their decisions that put them in a cage for life. I would require pictures of their victims to be hung in their cells.
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Agreed for two main reasons:1) death is easy and life in prison is hard. 2) it's cheaper. Our system of justice is such that it costs more to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life.
 
Diesel said:
That doesn't make it a hate crime. Do you know what a hate crime is?
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Are you saying that making it a hate crime increases the already heinousness of the crime?
In other words, what difference does it make? None. Hate crime or not it doesn't change the fact that she was targeted, beaten, then dragged to her death.
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
Changing quotes. Sure sign you never served. You wimpy ass lying sack of shit. democrat of course. No surprise.
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If I broke a rule, you should report me. That's what a real vet would do. The fake vets who swill beer and claim they were in 'Nam shooting at Charlie always act like obnoxious twits. Real vets are more humble out of respect for those who didn't come back.
 
Doc Dutch said:
If I broke a rule, you should report me. That's what a real vet would do. The fake vets who swill beer and claim they were in 'Nam shooting at Charlie always act like obnoxious twits. Real vets are more humble out of respect for those who didn't come back.
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You nor Guno know nothing about being vets. STFU.
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
You nor Guno know nothing about being vets. STFU.
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Only stolen valor drunks never prove they served.

I wuz in Floriduh while you were drunk in a bar:

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anonymoose said:
So they can’t find a jury in N.O. that doesn’t have criminal convictions. Imagine that.
I honestly believe these monsters will walk due to a hung jury when all the evidence is on video.
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Change of venue.

Problem solved.
 
ExpressLane said:
Lethal injection ALWAYS uses anesthesia. They used to use Sodium Pentothal. I have done thousands of inductions using Sodium Pentothal.
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Would that it were so. Lethal injection for executions do not involve anesthesia, which is barbaric.
Are you an executioner?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Would that it were so. Lethal injection for executions do not involve anesthesia, which is barbaric.
Are you an executioner?
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Show me a state that does not use anesthesia with their lethal injections

No I'm not an executioner are you a death row prisoner? I do know what the drugs they us are and how those drugs work. For example the drug they use a lot now is thiopental. It has a very fast onset. We used at lot for cardioversion anesthesia because it was fast on and fast off. Of course we were using a much smaller dose because we wanted them to wake up. We used to say they didn't pay use to put them to sleep they paid us to wake them up. The main problem with thiopenital is that it lowers the seizure threshold so you don't want to use it in patients with a history of seizures.


Conventional lethal injection protocol
Typically, three drugs are used in lethal injection. Pancuronium bromide (Pavulon) is used to cause muscle paralysis and respiratory arrest, potassium chloride to stop the heart, and midazolam for sedation

The Ohio protocol, developed after the incomplete execution of Romell Broom, ensures the rapid and painless onset of anesthesia by only using sodium thiopental and eliminating the use of Pavulon and potassium as the second and third drugs, respectively. It also provides for a secondary fail-safe measure using intramuscular injection of midazolam and hydromorphone in the event intravenous administration of the sodium thiopental proves problematic


Currently, seven states (Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Missouri, Ohio, South Dakota, and Texas.) have used the single-drug execution protocol.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letha... (Arizona,,the single-drug execution protocol.
Thiopental is an ultrashort-acting depressant of the central nervous system which induces hypnosis and anesthesia, but not analgesia. It produces hypnosis within 30 to 40 seconds of intravenous injection. Recovery after a small dose is rapid, with some somnolence and retrograde amnesia.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=thi...67j0i512l3.1866j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
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ExpressLane said:
Show me a state that does not use anesthesia with their lethal injections
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None of the states which deploy lethal injection do.
There was even a supreme court decision which idioticaally said that such was ok because the convicted was not entitled to a painless death constitutionally.
Veterinarians all do, but executioners do not.

Also, I'm not Google. Do your own research.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
None of the states which deploy lethal injection do.
There was even a supreme court decision which idioticaally said that such was ok because the convicted was not entitled to a painless death constitutionally.
Veterinarians all do, but executioners do not.

Also, I'm not Google. Do your own research.
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Are you insane? EVERY state uses a drug that induces a state of anesthesia. You truely have no idea of which you speak. :laugh:
 
anonymoose said:
Are you saying that making it a hate crime increases the already heinousness of the crime?
In other words, what difference does it make? None. Hate crime or not it doesn't change the fact that she was targeted, beaten, then dragged to her death.
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You don't know what a hate crime is. We already got that, moron.
 
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