"Forgive me, for I have sinned"

Little-Acorn

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(Sent to a group of gun-rights advocates)

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http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=680

Forgive me, for I have sinned.

An About Face After Being Saved by a Gun Owner

Sent in by Brian Clifford, from his Dear Friend

I am one of those people who you loathe. One of those invisible people who come into your living room without asking your permission. One of those people who follow you while you shop, and make it harder for you to make legal purchases. One of those people who try and tell you how to raise your children, as if you don't know how. One of those who gives ratings to stations that promote our demise as a free nation. I am your enemy. Or at least I was.

I followed it all, all of the propaganda, all of the hoopla. Believed it too. Believed that leaving my house was more dangerous than being in a war. At any given moment one of you evil gun owners would open fire on me. I saw the NRA stickers, the Gun owners of America stickers on the cars that passed, and I thought you were all fools. I did everything in my power financially to try and help more laws pass that would prevent you from owning guns. I wholeheartedly believed that only the Police, and Military should have guns. Every time I heard of a gang shooting, or other criminal act committed with a gun, I honestly believed that if we could curtail the legal sale of guns, we could make a difference.

Boy was I wrong.

I have children, three actually, and to me the only thing more important than raising them properly, was seeing that they aren't hurt in anyway. I wanted to ban guns, save my children, save all children. No child should have to be part of any kind of death, especially the kind that involves being shot. I gave money to all of the anti gun organizations I could think of, went to the "Million" Mom March, even looked at Rosie when she spoke, and actually admire her. Brought the kids as well, and even yelled some not so nice things to those other marchers. I'm sure some of you know who I refer to.

I was on my way back from the march, on my way back to Connecticut, when I stopped off of the highway at a rest stop by one of those McDonalds they have off I-95. By this time I had dropped off two of my kids with their father, and only had my little one with me. I went into the restroom with her, and on my way out noticed two men hanging out by my car. There were only two other cars in the lot at the time that were anywhere near my vehicle. I immediately felt threatened by their demeanor, but continued on to my car.

The smaller of the two approached me with a knife as I was about to open the door to put my child in her car seat. He yelled at me to get in the back of the car, they were taking me for a little ride. I obviously told them to just take my keys, they could have the car, but they insisted I get in the back. I then heard a man yelling something I don't quite recall, and saw him running towards me with a gun in his hand. The two men vanished into their car, and sped away. I stood there frozen in time, and by the time the gentleman with the gun got to me I just broke down and cried.

To make a long story short, you were all right, and I'm sorry. This man with a gun saved me, and I just keep thinking if I had gotten my wish and guns were banned, there is no telling where I'd be, and what would've happened to my daughter. The only regret I have is not getting the man's phone number who saved my life. I thanked him over and over again, and told him that he saved me, but he calmly said to me something I'd never forget. He said "That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help."

"That's what people like me are here for," those words keep on running through my head everyday. Maybe this gentleman by some chance is part of your group, and will read my message. If he does I would just like to say something to him, and to everyone else reading this note.

Thank you for saving my life, and to the rest of you thank you for fighting for this man's right to protect me and my child. Tell him for me that I will no longer be part of the group who invades his home, and tries to tell him how to store his guns. Tell him I will never be part of any group who tries to make it impossible for him to buy his tool he used to save me. And tell him I will never again tell him how to raise his children properly, because obviously I was oblivious to the fact that responsible people such as him know how to raise their children better than I do. I did rectify that situation the other day; I bought a shotgun for home protection, and am in the process of getting my concealed permit. Next time I will be ready to defend myself, or others for that matter.

Some of my friends think I'm crazy, but they try their best to understand. I just tell them that as soon as their child's life is put in jeopardy by some criminal with a weapon that they will understand, but until then don't tell me how to live my life. I've lost some friends, but surprisingly most of them understand. If not for this man I could very easily have been killed or raped, and my child could've been taken from me, so once more I need to say thanks for saving me, and with all sincerity to the rest of you, forgive me, for I have sinned.
 
I oppose all rights. I believe that the government is the solution to all problems.

I am a conservative.

Your a kid that does not take good issues seriously. There are not many good consertatives because of the shift to your left side. A real consertative--you do not have the ability to define---because your liberial commie colleges do not give you the data. Wake up--I know your smart enough--you just need wisdom---your being DUPED!
 
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Excellent story Acorn. It looks like one of the true stories out of some of the gun mags. Due to conditioning and dupe liberials---we will not see any of those true stories on the TV news. Liberials won't read this story--they won't believe it enough, or say it is not valid. The truth is, they reject good data, and there fore are not actually qualified to have an opinion. That lady who got saved could think either way right now, and I would not care---she is qualified--she experienced the data dupes refuse to look at.

I have to say man---I dig you Acorn. You are no socialist gay fachist commie---your the real McCoy American.

The words "That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help." brought a tear to my eye. Nobody else will be be there to possibly save that ladies and childs life---when the DUPES get their way.

I am glad I have the resources to make my own guns in my garage, if I have to.

Yea--Many out of work manufactuing experts will sell responsible people, and DUPES guns soon for personal protection. I see a market coming. :) Liberial laws always make markets in crime.

Responsible adults can not be conditioned into liberailism. Children are taught liberialism in our commie college universities and liberial area high schools.

Anybody with a functioning brain will know that when a industry is dominatd by one philosophy, the interest of the philosophy will be sought in that industry, and conditioning will happen to every body exposed to that industry (for the lack of a better term).

That sir Watermark---is wisom that comes with age---if not conditioned like the adults here. You still have a chance, and I would hate to see a FREE and sharp mind like yours fight for socialism.

"That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help."
 
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Excellent story Acorn. It looks like one of the true stories out of some of the gun mags. Due to conditioning and dupe liberials---we will not see any of those true stories on the TV news. Liberials won't read this story--they won't believe it enough, or say it is not valid. The truth is, they reject good data, and there fore are not actually qualified to have an opinion. That lady who got saved could think either way right now, and I would not care---she is qualified--she experienced the data dupes refuse to look at.

I have to say man---I dig you Acorn. You are no socialist gay fachist commie---your the real McCoy American.

The words "That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help." brought a tear to my eye. Nobody else will be be there to possibly save that ladies and childs life---when the DUPES get their way.

I am glad I have the resources to make my own guns in my garage, if I have to.

Yea--Many out of work manufactuing experts will sell responsible people, and DUPES guns soon for personal protection. I see a market coming. :) Liberial laws always make markets in crime.

Responsible adults can not be conditioned into liberailism. Children are taught liberialism in our commie college universities and liberial area high schools.

Anybody with a functioning brain will know that when a industry is dominatd by one philosophy, the interest of the philosophy will be sought in that industry, and conditioning will happen to every body exposed to that industry (for the lack of a better term).

That sir Watermark---is wisom that comes with age---if not conditioned like the adults here. You still have a chance, and I would hate to see a FREE and sharp mind like yours fight for socialism.

"That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help."

ROTFLMAO


That was too funny.
 
Your a kid that does not take good issues seriously. There are not many good consertatives because of the shift to your left side. A real consertative--you do not have the ability to define---because your liberial commie colleges do not give you the data. Wake up--I know your smart enough--you just need wisdom---your being DUPED!

OH PULEASE! What a load of BS. Conservatives are people who believe in freedom.....that is unless someone actually practices it.

Ya'll have been indoctrinated by the right wing Goebbels propaganda machine where if anyone doesn't walk in lock step with your ideology then you marginalize those people as "Liberals" or "Leftist". It's so fucking patently out of the book of Joseph Goebbels that alls you need to do is substitute "Jew" with "Liberal" and my point is dead on to anyone with any ability to think. The only thing that's missing is the ovens.

The NRA has turned from a hunters and gun owners rights advocacy group to an extremist right wing political group that's become the retirement home for John Birchers. Their idiotic disconnect on urban gun violence is nothing short of irrational. You want to join a real gun and hunters advocacy group? Join Ducks Unlimited. NRA is a joke.

You believe in a false premise when you think that there are few good conservatives because of a shift to the left side. Well conservatives have always been a minority in America's body politics. Americans have almost always been towards the center in it's political views. Some are center right, some are center left and some are dead center and some are liberal on some issues, conservative on other and in the middle on others as that's were rational thinking leads them. I myself tend to be left of center on social issues and right of center on economic ones. Of course by "True Conservative" standards that makes me a redshirted, bleeding heart, May day loving commie pinko liberal.

I'll state to the rightwing nuts who are guilty of the same damned crime as those on the far left.

"I'd rather live is a chosen pergatory then an obligatory paradise!"
 
Excellent story Acorn. It looks like one of the true stories out of some of the gun mags. Due to conditioning and dupe liberials---we will not see any of those true stories on the TV news. Liberials won't read this story--they won't believe it enough, or say it is not valid. The truth is, they reject good data, and there fore are not actually qualified to have an opinion. That lady who got saved could think either way right now, and I would not care---she is qualified--she experienced the data dupes refuse to look at.

I have to say man---I dig you Acorn. You are no socialist gay fachist commie---your the real McCoy American.

The words "That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help." brought a tear to my eye. Nobody else will be be there to possibly save that ladies and childs life---when the DUPES get their way.

I am glad I have the resources to make my own guns in my garage, if I have to.

Yea--Many out of work manufactuing experts will sell responsible people, and DUPES guns soon for personal protection. I see a market coming. :) Liberial laws always make markets in crime.

Responsible adults can not be conditioned into liberailism. Children are taught liberialism in our commie college universities and liberial area high schools.

Anybody with a functioning brain will know that when a industry is dominatd by one philosophy, the interest of the philosophy will be sought in that industry, and conditioning will happen to every body exposed to that industry (for the lack of a better term).

That sir Watermark---is wisom that comes with age---if not conditioned like the adults here. You still have a chance, and I would hate to see a FREE and sharp mind like yours fight for socialism.

"That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help."

You do realize that this story isn't real and was just completely made up by a ghostwriter, don't you?
 
OH PULEASE! What a load of BS. Conservatives are people who believe in freedom.....that is unless someone actually practices it.

Ya'll have been indoctrinated by the right wing Goebbels propaganda machine where if anyone doesn't walk in lock step with your ideology then you marginalize those people as "Liberals" or "Leftist". It's so fucking patently out of the book of Joseph Goebbels that alls you need to do is substitute "Jew" with "Liberal" and my point is dead on to anyone with any ability to think. The only thing that's missing is the ovens.

The NRA has turned from a hunters and gun owners rights advocacy group to an extremist right wing political group that's become the retirement home for John Birchers. Their idiotic disconnect on urban gun violence is nothing short of irrational. You want to join a real gun and hunters advocacy group? Join Ducks Unlimited. NRA is a joke.

You believe in a false premise when you think that there are few good conservatives because of a shift to the left side. Well conservatives have always been a minority in America's body politics. Americans have almost always been towards the center in it's political views. Some are center right, some are center left and some are dead center and some are liberal on some issues, conservative on other and in the middle on others as that's were rational thinking leads them. I myself tend to be left of center on social issues and right of center on economic ones. Of course by "True Conservative" standards that makes me a redshirted, bleeding heart, May day loving commie pinko liberal.

I'll state to the rightwing nuts who are guilty of the same damned crime as those on the far left.

"I'd rather live is a chosen pergatory then an obligatory paradise!"

Proof that conservatives triumpgh over you nanny state loving commies!
 
Your a kid that does not take good issues seriously. There are not many good consertatives because of the shift to your left side. A real consertative--you do not have the ability to define---because your liberial commie colleges do not give you the data. Wake up--I know your smart enough--you just need wisdom---your being DUPED!

My liberal commie college?

LOL.


Just like my liberal commie high school, where the newspaper was shutdown after it printed an article that was against forcing kids to pray in school against their will by big government loving conservatives.
 
Ya'll have been indoctrinated by the right wing Goebbels propaganda machine where if anyone doesn't walk in lock step with your ideology then you marginalize those people as "Liberals" or "Leftist". It's so fucking patently out of the book of Joseph Goebbels that alls you need to do is substitute "Jew" with "Liberal" and my point is dead on to anyone with any ability to think. The only thing that's missing is the ovens.
Which is not nearly the same as always comparing rightists to Nazis.


"I'd rather live is a chosen pergatory then an obligatory paradise!"

Non serviam.
 
OH PULEASE! What a load of BS. Conservatives are people who believe in freedom.....that is unless someone actually practices it.

Ya'll have been indoctrinated by the right wing Goebbels propaganda machine where if anyone doesn't walk in lock step with your ideology then you marginalize those people as "Liberals" or "Leftist". It's so fucking patently out of the book of Joseph Goebbels that alls you need to do is substitute "Jew" with "Liberal" and my point is dead on to anyone with any ability to think. The only thing that's missing is the ovens.

The NRA has turned from a hunters and gun owners rights advocacy group to an extremist right wing political group that's become the retirement home for John Birchers. Their idiotic disconnect on urban gun violence is nothing short of irrational. You want to join a real gun and hunters advocacy group? Join Ducks Unlimited. NRA is a joke.

You believe in a false premise when you think that there are few good conservatives because of a shift to the left side. Well conservatives have always been a minority in America's body politics. Americans have almost always been towards the center in it's political views. Some are center right, some are center left and some are dead center and some are liberal on some issues, conservative on other and in the middle on others as that's were rational thinking leads them. I myself tend to be left of center on social issues and right of center on economic ones. Of course by "True Conservative" standards that makes me a redshirted, bleeding heart, May day loving commie pinko liberal.

I'll state to the rightwing nuts who are guilty of the same damned crime as those on the far left.

"I'd rather live is a chosen pergatory then an obligatory paradise!"

Consertavitism is simply trying to follow tradition---like the constitution that still works no matter what era we are in. I agree---conservatism is not what it use to be--and neither is liberiialism. Both are drifting to socialism. It seems like some kind of race to slavery to me.
 
You do realize that this story isn't real and was just completely made up by a ghostwriter, don't you?

What else can you say? This stuff does happen man. If I had a CCW, I would do the same for you--but I would let em beat you up a bit and take your money first--so you know how most Americans live. You would just be getting a taste of your own medicine---but most Americans are beat up with their money stolen for their whole lives.
 
Looks like we're getting the usual responses of the left here: namecalling, mindless laughter with no explanation, announcing the whole thing is a lie (again with no explanation), and the de rigeur circle jerk where they all congratualte each other for humiliating whoever believed the original post... without having to take the trouble of proving or even challenging anything in it.

No wonder so many people become leftists. There's literally nothing to it... and thus it suits them to a T. :D
 
Looks like we're getting the usual responses of the left here: namecalling, mindless laughter with no explanation, announcing the whole thing is a lie (again with no explanation), and the de rigeur circle jerk where they all congratualte each other for humiliating whoever believed the original post... without having to take the trouble of proving or even challenging anything in it.

No wonder so many people become leftists. There's literally nothing to it... and thus it suits them to a T. :D

Looks like we're getting the usual response from the right here.

Stupidity and broad-brushing.
 
Whether this story is true or not...

Two studies have shown that guns are used over two million times per year for self defense. That is not actively firing the gun everytime but just chasing the assailant away with a fire arm.

The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. during the 1988-1993 period. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.

A national survey conducted in 1994 by the Police Foundation and sponsored by the National Institute of Justice almost exactly confirmed the estimates from the National Self-Defense Survey. This survey's person-based estimate was that 1.44% of the adult population had used a gun for protection against a person in the previous year, implying 2.73 million defensive gun users. These results were well within sampling error of the corresponding 1.33% and 2.55 million estimates produced by the National Self-Defense Survey.

http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/kleck2.html

Read the whole thing then come back and tell me how gun ownership is bad. The DC gun ban has not cut the number of crimes committed by fire arms it has only made sure that the victims are not armed.
 
Consertavitism is simply trying to follow tradition---like the constitution that still works no matter what era we are in. I agree---conservatism is not what it use to be--and neither is liberiialism. Both are drifting to socialism. It seems like some kind of race to slavery to me.

That's because most of the self identified conservatives are not conservatives at all but are reactionaries who want to turn the clock back to a right wing never, never land that never was and hope to hell never will be.

God save me from extremist.
 
That's because most of the self identified conservatives are not conservatives at all but are reactionaries who want to turn the clock back to a right wing never, never land that never was and hope to hell never will be.

God save me from extremist.

It seems to me most "conservatives" want to push the clock forward to a new world order of unbounded corporate greed, a world free from the pesky strictures of human rights and individual freedoms. Oh wait. Libs want it too.



Reject globalism!

How do free people compete with slaves?
 
Two studies have shown that guns are used over two million times per year for self defense. That is not actively firing the gun everytime but just chasing the assailant away with a fire arm.

The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. during the 1988-1993 period. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.

A national survey conducted in 1994 by the Police Foundation and sponsored by the National Institute of Justice almost exactly confirmed the estimates from the National Self-Defense Survey. This survey's person-based estimate was that 1.44% of the adult population had used a gun for protection against a person in the previous year, implying 2.73 million defensive gun users. These results were well within sampling error of the corresponding 1.33% and 2.55 million estimates produced by the National Self-Defense Survey.

http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/kleck2.html

Read the whole thing then come back and tell me how gun ownership is bad. The DC gun ban has not cut the number of crimes committed by fire arms it has only made sure that the victims are not armed.
QFT!
 
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