PostmodernProphet
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that may explain why there are no large atheist charitable organisations.......
Great atheists on the meaning & purpose of life
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One problem. Cypress lied about these thinkers.
Social Security.
You have to wonder about the intelligence of someone who calls Marx an advocate of individualism. Marx spoke about the person as a "species being. "
Marx: "Man is a species-being, not only because in practice and in theory he adopts the species (his own as well as those of other things) as his object, but-and this is only another way of expressing it-also because he treats himself as a universal and therefore a free being."
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Marx: "Man is a species-being, not only because in practice and in theory he adopts the species (his own as well as those of other things) as his object, but-and this is only another way of expressing it-also because he treats himself as a universal and therefore a free being."
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Marx: "If man is confronted by himself, he is confronted by the other man ... in fact, every relationship in which man [stands) to himself, is realised and expressed only in the relationship in which a man stands to other men "
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Self fulfillment and self mastery are not synonyms for narcissism. Otherwise we would have to call Confucious and Aristotle narcissists.
Five minutes of frantically Googling and copy/ pasting is no way to do homework on Marx.
It is just basic and fundamental knowledge about Marx that, in his view, capitalism alienated the individual from his creative energies and the fruits of his labor.
There has never been any rule written anywhere that collectivism and individualism are completely separate, insoluble , and never the two shall meet.
Look, sick of your shit. Go fuck yourself you lying piece of garbage.
Does EVERYONE who disagrees with you just "frantically google"? You really love to denigrate points rather than debate them and you ALWAYS go for argumentum ad hominem.
You really should be better at debating points on their merits and not simply attacking the other poster all.the.time.
Why do you need a "meaning" to be supplied to you from outside of yourself? Is it the meaning of YOUR life to sit and and call everyone "cunts"? That's a pretty empty reason.
This is an improvement in your rhetoric.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
and should we not?........
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
"love your neighbor AS yourself".......is the antithesis of atheist self-centeredness.......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I am striving to get folks like you to realize your faults.....so will achieve a better understanding of yourself.......
Dutch Uncle
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An excellent philosophy.A Rabbi is teaching his student the Talmud and explains god created everything in this world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.
The clever student asks “What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did god create them?”
The Rabbi responds “God created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all – the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone who is in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that god commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.”
“This means” the Rabbi continued “that when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say ‘I pray that god will help you.’ instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no god who can help, and say ‘I will help you.'”
Danger ahead - there are good reasons why God created atheists | The Rabbi Sacks Legacy
Read Danger ahead - there are good reasons why God created atheists from The Rabbi Sacks Legacy.rabbisacks.org
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed on not prescribing to the philosophies wholesale.
While there's a lot to be said for "Hope for the best, but plan for the worst", pessimism seems to focus upon plan for the worst to avoid disappointment and forgets the "hope for the best."
Materialism, like money, is necessary for survival up to a point. Starvation and protection from physical elements can be fatal, but how much food and shelter do people need to be happy? The Uber-Rish in the US have more money than they can ever hope to spend. People live in houses they can barely afford with more room than two or more families while driving cars worth more than 2-4 times the median income.
Übermensch, as I understand it, is maximizing one's potential strictly within the material universe, which is fine. As with Guno's story about the Rabbi and the atheist, it can be very noble. Most people can benefit from trying to "be all they can be", but I feel that isn't possible solely within a physical context. I believe that to maximize oneself it must be in all three realms of physical, mental and spiritual.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed, but you claim to be a Christian and never love your neighbor like yourself unless they are white, male and Alt-Right like yourself.
Dutch Uncle
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You would only write that if you were fairly ignorant of human intellectual and cultural history. A program of self fulfillment and self mastery does not include an admonition to be an asshole. Confucius taught a version of the Golden Rule 500 years before Christianity even existed.