Grind is not a liberal (I can't believe I have to clarify this to some of you proles)

Threedee said:
Meh, you and Grind are libertarians. I am paleoconservative, and Water is a socialist (he once went through a libertarian phase, though). One might mistake me, because of how often I am forced to defend libertarianism from ignorant proles such as Mott, but that's mostly due to my desire for accuracy (and liberals never, ever, ever, get that one right) as well as a respect for the philosophy as it shares many things in common with mine.
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You cannot deny your destiny. Your place is at our side, ruling the shadow government until such time as we need not hide in the shadows.

As for Watermark, we all know his true identity lies at the very heart of Libertarianism. That he claims otherwise is a ruse, designed to destroy the credibility of our enemies, and drive them to our own camp.
 
Duplicity and Guile said:
You cannot deny your destiny. Your place is at our side, ruling the shadow government until such time as we need not hide in the shadows.

As for Watermark, we all know his true identity lies at the very heart of Libertarianism. That he claims otherwise is a ruse, designed to destroy the credibility of our enemies, and drive them to our own camp.
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I will probably go full-libertarian before I die. As for Watermark, whatever that schitzo believes, as long as he continues to be Grind's cum bucket, he is a useful member of the cause.

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F R E N D O said:
I have actually seen some people refer me as a liberal, which I find to be one of the most funniest things of all time. If only some of you newcomers could read some of my older posts about the things I believe, rather than me talking about shit vs. piss in watermarks threads like I have done as of late, you would understand perhaps a little bit more.


Here are some rather conservative viewpoints I have:

I believe in total unadulterated gun rights.

I am against the progressive tax, and most taxes in general. I would much more be in favor of a land value tax, the fair tax, etc. But I've given up on this issue because it will never happen in 1 billion years.

I believe that our role in the united nations is to limit the united nations in anything they do that may compromise our own interests.

And many other standard smaller issues....

The problem is, many conservatives are too busy drooling out of the sides of their mouths, and way too often they believe in lots of batshit stuff in addition to the things I highlighted above. Some believe the rapture is imminent. Others believe evolution is "just a theory"

I just recognize that we need intelligent, articulate, and the best our nation has to offer in government and the oval office. Not your fucking buddy that drinks beers with you, as you proles so often remark. I don't want the star of tlc's reality show sarah palin. I don't want idiot conservatives that believe in magical gods, who do not know that the earth revolves around the sun and that's it's more than 6000 years old.

Conservatives, while they may back some good ideas, are like a broken watch, in that a broken watch will still be right at least twice a day. They have no true reasons for believing the things they do. They are stupid, and redstaters continually score among the lowest in the nation. Conservative states routinely hold america back. If it weren't for you flyover proles, America would be comprable to europe in almost every way. Maybe even better.
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Grind, conservative and liberal are pretty much relative concepts. Let me put it to you like this, to some jack booted, brown shirted, goose stepping, storm trooping Nazi like Dixie you will always be a bleeding heart, commie, pinko, liberal.
 
Threedee said:
I will probably go full-libertarian before I die. As for Watermark, whatever that schitzo believes, as long as he continues to be Grind's cum bucket, he is a useful member of the cause.

:clink:
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Libertarian? Son, that would make you about as useless as lips on a rubber chicken.
 
Liberty said:
Well Mott, I bet you're a Libertarian.

So what's bad about being a Libertarian.
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Becasue to Mott, being a Libertarian is the

EXACT SAME THING

As being an anarchist. But in his strange, twisted, Ohioan brain, promoting the expansion, however slight, of government control into any particular area of anything, doesn't make him a fascist.

Basically Mott just makes it up.

EDIT: and for the record, no Mott isn't a Libertarian.
 
Duplicity and Guile said:
Becasue to Mott, being a Libertarian is the

EXACT SAME THING

As being an anarchist. But in his strange, twisted, Ohioan brain, promoting the expansion, however slight, of government control into any particular area of anything, doesn't make him a fascist.

Basically Mott just makes it up.

EDIT: and for the record, no Mott isn't a Libertarian.
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Yea, yea, yea you anarcho-libertarians never learn. We just had an excellent example a in 08 of where being asleep at the wheel self fulfilling prophecy for bad government libertarianism will get you. Ya'll just don't get it. Replacing intrusive government with bad government is not a realistic option.

The contradiction that libertarians cannot solve in the real world with magical libertarian fairy dust is how to govern efficiently and fairly a large industrialized nation such as ours. Ya'll just sit there and bitch and moan about "Big Government" with out ever providing any practical or realistic alternative solutions to the big problems our nation faces. You just think that if you take government out of the picture all problems will fix themselves.

Which is why libertarians are useless as lips or a rubber chicken. They just stand by and think all our problems can be solved by wishful thinking and sprinkling magical libertarian fairy dust on it.
 
evince said:
Immy was the only con I can remember to abandon Bush.

He now has reverted back to defending him.
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You are such a liar. I have not defended Bush in years. Just because I cannot stand the fact that in every post you make, you lie and I call you out on it, does not mean that I am defending Bush.

Will you ever stop lying? No, I doubt it.

Hello everyone. Merry Christmas and happy holidays from Immie and family.

Immie
 
"If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?" Alice in Wonderland
 
))<>(( said:
I have actually seen some people refer me as a liberal, which I find to be one of the most funniest things of all time. If only some of you newcomers could read some of my older posts about the things I believe, rather than me talking about shit vs. piss in watermarks threads like I have done as of late, you would understand perhaps a little bit more.


Here are some rather conservative viewpoints I have:

I believe in total unadulterated gun rights.

I am against the progressive tax, and most taxes in general. I would much more be in favor of a land value tax, the fair tax, etc. But I've given up on this issue because it will never happen in 1 billion years.

I believe that our role in the united nations is to limit the united nations in anything they do that may compromise our own interests.

And many other standard smaller issues....

The problem is, many conservatives are too busy drooling out of the sides of their mouths, and way too often they believe in lots of batshit stuff in addition to the things I highlighted above. Some believe the rapture is imminent. Others believe evolution is "just a theory"

I just recognize that we need intelligent, articulate, and the best our nation has to offer in government and the oval office. Not your fucking buddy that drinks beers with you, as you proles so often remark. I don't want the star of tlc's reality show sarah palin. I don't want idiot conservatives that believe in magical gods, who do not know that the earth revolves around the sun and that's it's more than 6000 years old.

Conservatives, while they may back some good ideas, are like a broken watch, in that a broken watch will still be right at least twice a day. They have no true reasons for believing the things they do. They are stupid, and redstaters continually score among the lowest in the nation. Conservative states routinely hold america back. If it weren't for you flyover proles, America would be comprable to europe in almost every way. Maybe even better.
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Fuckin commie.
 
Grind is also not left the class of virgins distiction yet either. Go play a video game you'll never hit the puntang.
 
Immanuel said:
You are such a liar. I have not defended Bush in years. Just because I cannot stand the fact that in every post you make, you lie and I call you out on it, does not mean that I am defending Bush.

Will you ever stop lying? No, I doubt it.

Hello everyowne. Merry Christmas and happy holidays from Immie and family.

Immie
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Haha, so Immie knows Desh/evince well.
 
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